I've been talking about this for several years but still do not know how to remove the ETM. I need to write a procedure if we get the ETM replacement as a DIY.
I checked with AllData and they require removable of the intake manifold. I an see that this would be easier and avoid some skinned knuckles but is it necessary?
I know some of you have removed the ETM and cleaned it but did you remove the intake manifold?
Thanks for the help.
how do I remove ETM
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DonWillson
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how do I remove ETM
Announcing my affiliation with XeMODeX, Inc. as Internet correspondent and consultant to Volvophiles needing help with failing ETMs. See http://FixYourETM.com. For the full history of this problem see http://VEXEDvolvo.org
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MadeInJapan
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Don, what you're asking depends on the vehicle. All of the files below are from pdf files converted from VADIS.
Here's the first one for an S70 (first generation '99 and '00 V/C/XC70's should be the same): Here's the one for the S80 (it is different due to the intake manifold having to come off first so it's embedded in the intake manifold removal and installation instructions): The P2 cars (S60 and newer '01 and '02 V/XC/70's) are yet again different, however once again, the intake manifold has to come off. Therefore the instructions are buried in the intake manifold R&R directions: Hope this helps. If I find another affected Volvo with different instructions, I'll post them up.
Due to the fact that the '99 S/V90's and the S/V40's were different over here in the U.S., these do not come up in VADIS as having ETM's. The 700 series did not appear to be made for the U.S. for the affected years either (maybe in Europe?). I mention these here because they are listed on VexedVolvo.org but the actual recall from Volvo USA dated Nov. 14, 2006 don't mention them. The files I posted above should cover all those under the warranty and may be all that there is.
Regards, David
Here's the first one for an S70 (first generation '99 and '00 V/C/XC70's should be the same): Here's the one for the S80 (it is different due to the intake manifold having to come off first so it's embedded in the intake manifold removal and installation instructions): The P2 cars (S60 and newer '01 and '02 V/XC/70's) are yet again different, however once again, the intake manifold has to come off. Therefore the instructions are buried in the intake manifold R&R directions: Hope this helps. If I find another affected Volvo with different instructions, I'll post them up.
Due to the fact that the '99 S/V90's and the S/V40's were different over here in the U.S., these do not come up in VADIS as having ETM's. The 700 series did not appear to be made for the U.S. for the affected years either (maybe in Europe?). I mention these here because they are listed on VexedVolvo.org but the actual recall from Volvo USA dated Nov. 14, 2006 don't mention them. The files I posted above should cover all those under the warranty and may be all that there is.
Regards, David
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I have a '99 S70. I just removed mine last Saturday to send to Xemodex for rebuild/upgrade. The ETM I removed was a "yellow tagged" replacement for the first one that failed a number of years ago. With the exception of one unfortunate issue, the module should be relatively trivial to remove/install in an S70. You just unattach the air intake hose and remove for long screws. The "unfortunate issue" is the ETM cable may be routed behind the starter motor and the connector is too big to pull the cable thru. This was the case with mine, even though it was a yellow tagged replacment. Usually with replacements the cable is routed over the starter. Such is my luck. You do not need to remove the starter. What I needed to do was just remove the back starter mounting bracket. This involved removing one large bolt to the block and two smaller nuts connecting the bracket to the starter. Then the cable can be pulled around the back of the starter. Now what makes this issue "unfortunate" is to get reasonable access to the starter bracket (unless you have snakelike manipulators like the Martians in the "War of the Worlds") you need to remove the electric fan and fan shroud. This also is not tooooo difficult, there are only two torx screws and two bolts holding it in place, and it "just lifts out", but there are half a dozen or so cables and relays zip-tied and or plugged into the fan assembly.
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nicopag
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Don Willson, finally, did you remove the manifold?DonWillson wrote:I've been talking about this for several years but still do not know how to remove the ETM. I need to write a procedure if we get the ETM replacement as a DIY.
I checked with AllData and they require removable of the intake manifold. I an see that this would be easier and avoid some skinned knuckles but is it necessary?
I know some of you have removed the ETM and cleaned it but did you remove the intake manifold?
Thanks for the help.
V70 2.5T, L.H.D /S.R, 1999
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ericbs1975
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I found this tutorial on removing the ETM. It is for a 2001 V70 T5, but was similar enough to help me in removing my 2000 S70's ETM. www.box.net/services/ipaper_by_scribd/102/149940560/250d79/ETM_removal_cleaning/shared/cjh7pkl0cshttp://
Hope it helps!
Hope it helps!
Yikes...God I wish I found this page a few hours ago. I currently have the manifold unbolted from the block. I guess I did not have to do this.
I am pretty mechanically inclined, but automotive is my last frontier....LOL. I am not afraid though to try things.
I just purchased this car from the original owner and he failed to offer up what was happening. Ill deal with him on some other day. I am yet another victim of the ETM issue and I want to try to clean it. It is original as the stick is white as day. My wife almost died on Monday as the started to limp in an intersection, then it flew forward. So, it is currently in my garage at my mercy.
Can anyone offer some helpful tips, etc. for the s60T? From what I can gather, the non-turbo is A HELL of a lot easier.
I am pretty mechanically inclined, but automotive is my last frontier....LOL. I am not afraid though to try things.
I just purchased this car from the original owner and he failed to offer up what was happening. Ill deal with him on some other day. I am yet another victim of the ETM issue and I want to try to clean it. It is original as the stick is white as day. My wife almost died on Monday as the started to limp in an intersection, then it flew forward. So, it is currently in my garage at my mercy.
Can anyone offer some helpful tips, etc. for the s60T? From what I can gather, the non-turbo is A HELL of a lot easier.
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mikealder
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Is it a Turbo or N/A engine:
N/A engine is very easy just undo the rubber pipe going to the ETM then release the four 10MM headed bolts securing the ETM to the inlet manifold, to get the cable off you will need to release the starter motor steady bracket which is hidden under the inlet manifold then unplug the ETM from its connection on the subframe just aft of the radiator.
The Turbo is a tad more difficult as you can't see what you are doing but again the air delivery pipe needs to be removed from the ETM then remove the for 10MM headed bolts and proceed in the same way as the N/A engine. Some people suggest removing the radiator fan to improve access but I have never done this to release an ETM, you can get to it although you do suffer a few scratches to the hands!
NOTE, if all you want to do is clean it out there is enough cable on the ETM to allow for this without disconnecting the connector or releasing the starter motor steady bracket. Where the cables go in to the ETM is NOT a connector so don't undo that or you will ruin the ETM.
For a few pictures and more detailed text about why they fail see Here - Mike
N/A engine is very easy just undo the rubber pipe going to the ETM then release the four 10MM headed bolts securing the ETM to the inlet manifold, to get the cable off you will need to release the starter motor steady bracket which is hidden under the inlet manifold then unplug the ETM from its connection on the subframe just aft of the radiator.
The Turbo is a tad more difficult as you can't see what you are doing but again the air delivery pipe needs to be removed from the ETM then remove the for 10MM headed bolts and proceed in the same way as the N/A engine. Some people suggest removing the radiator fan to improve access but I have never done this to release an ETM, you can get to it although you do suffer a few scratches to the hands!
NOTE, if all you want to do is clean it out there is enough cable on the ETM to allow for this without disconnecting the connector or releasing the starter motor steady bracket. Where the cables go in to the ETM is NOT a connector so don't undo that or you will ruin the ETM.
For a few pictures and more detailed text about why they fail see Here - Mike
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