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1994 850 Should I buy it

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1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
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Re: 1994 850 Should I buy it

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Jazzop wrote:My opinions (admittedly biased in ways that may not be relevant to you):

1. I would avoid any 850 earlier than 1996 due to the quirky electronics/engine management system in the pre-OBD2 cars.
You must know something I don't, because I plugged a 97 R ECU into my 94 wagon and it works just fine.

erikv11 wrote:
perks1 wrote:Thanks Matty Moo and Erikv11 for your thoughts. Keep 'em coming. What do you mean by quirky? More work and tempermental?
The 94 models have a different intake manifold, and all (?) have EGR which is a big pain at 20 years of age. By 95 Volvo had hit their stride with the 850, those only suffer from having EGR; the 96's and 97's are the best IMHO.
You can disabled / get ride of the EGR by simply using a 96 or 97 T5 ECU on a 94/95 turbo car.
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Then you should get a SAS error.
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tryingbe wrote:If two things differ, then changing the parts that don't match can make them similar.
Yep, and that's a good reason to list the differences.
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'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
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Post by tryingbe »

rspi wrote:Then you should get a SAS error.
Negative on that. No codes present.

erikv11 wrote:
tryingbe wrote:If two things differ, then changing the parts that don't match can make them similar.
Yep, and that's a good reason to list the differences.
I have no idea what you're trying to say.

94 intake manifold is basically the same as 96, with the exception have 94 manifold is machined for the EGR valve. I looked at them side by side a while back.
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Early '94 had the VVIS intake manifold like the '93.
VVIS Has the vacuum actuator shown.
VVIS Has the vacuum actuator shown.
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1993 850 GLT , You wouldn't know it.
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1994 850 N/A Wagon Black.
1997 850 Sedan Black.
1996 850R Wagon White.
1997 850 Sedan Red ( not white or black!)

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Post by tryingbe »

Ben850 wrote:Early '94 had the VVIS intake manifold like the '93.
That manifold didn't come on cars with turbo.
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tryingbe wrote:
Ben850 wrote:Early '94 had the VVIS intake manifold like the '93.
That manifold didn't come on cars with turbo.
The car in question here is not a turbo.
1993 850 GLT , You wouldn't know it.
1996 850 Turbo Wagon White.
1995 T-5R Black. New work in progress.
1998 V70 XC Cross Country White.
1994 850 N/A Wagon Black.
1997 850 Sedan Black.
1996 850R Wagon White.
1997 850 Sedan Red ( not white or black!)

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Post by perks1 »

Hi everybody,

Thank you all so much for your invaluable advice. My apologies for taking a long time to post again -- it's been a bit too busy. As it turns out, I was not able to go and see the car. In the meantime someone else came and bought it. However, based on what the information you all shared, I think it probably was not a great loss. I will probably look for a slightly newer car, say 95-97 or go for an S70 or V70 from 1998 with over 100,000 miles that has had all the work done. In the meantime, my Honda Accord is now working fine again, so I may not need to by anything right away and can afford to take my time and be picky until I find just the right one. When I do, I will probably be back asking for further advice. Thank you all for being so welcoming and for the education.

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