Login Register

Inner and Outer Tierod End replacement tutorial

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

This topic is in the MVS Volvo Repair Database » Inner/Outer Tie Rods DIY - S70, V70, 850, XC70
Post Reply
User avatar
dosbricks
Posts: 1116
Joined: 30 December 2004
Year and Model: '96 855, '98 S70
Location: South Texas
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: Inner and Outer Tierod End replacement tutorial

Post by dosbricks »

xHeart wrote:
dosbricks wrote:Question: Would it help any to turn the wheel to extend the rack toward the side you are working on just a couple of inches so as to get better access for the pipe wrench to get a bite?
Working on inner tie-rod will damage steering rack if you are a first timer - failure would follow. Hammering, heating, excessive force, wrong tool is not recommended.

Read this post https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=54721

Save all the money you are spending on the tie-rods, and purchase a rebuild SMI rack. It will come with inner and outer tie-rod, boot, etc. Replace the entire steering rack. You will save and get ahead.
MVS__0813.jpg
xHeart, I read both threads you linked to and sympathize with problems you experienced. But since my rack is not leaking, I would be loath to undertake replacing it in total with a rebuilt at this point, because at my age, I doubt I have the stamina to do what you did. It appears your rack seals may have failed because of an inadequate seal of the boots which then resulted in rusting of the shaft/piston. I used to own a backhoe and know full well what happens to hydraulic seals if rust develops on a piston, hence we tried to leave all cylinders in the retracted position at the end of each day.

Apparently some folks have success replacing their inner tie rods themselves. The main reason I would prefer to do it myself is that putting the car in a shop often results in hidden peripheral damage that shows up later--I euphemistically call it handing your car over to the torturers. I'm dealing with a case of that right now. Nevertheless, I appreciate your warnings of what might go wrong and I'll heed those and weigh them in deciding if I want to tackle the inner tie rods. Without guys like you blazing the way and sharing your experiences, how would any of us know what to anticipate before starting a difficult repair. Thanks.

dos
'98 S70, 230k, purchased new in '98
'96 855 GLT, 163k, purchased lightly used in '99
Onceuponatime RIP '69 Shelby GT500 w/7.0 liter

clifford06
Posts: 348
Joined: 1 August 2013
Year and Model: 2000 T5
Location: texas
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 4 times

Post by clifford06 »

Does the tierod end kit from O Reillys fit ? I'm working on limited time and trying to beat weather.
.
Attachments
67046.jpg
67046.jpg (38.07 KiB) Viewed 2906 times

clifford06
Posts: 348
Joined: 1 August 2013
Year and Model: 2000 T5
Location: texas
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 4 times

Post by clifford06 »

I rented this today . It didn't fit. The adapters were either too big or too small. Bought the $ 20.00 universal tool, and replaced my inner rods.

PapaHepcat
Posts: 50
Joined: 31 December 2014
Year and Model: v70 1999 XC
Location: Oregon - USA

Post by PapaHepcat »

clifford06 wrote:I rented this today . It didn't fit. The adapters were either too big or too small. Bought the $ 20.00 universal tool, and replaced my inner rods.
Could I ask what universal tool you got? I checked on O'Reilly's website, but had a hard time nailing one down. Was it something like this, maybe?
http://amzn.com/B0066PI154
Current car:
1999 v70 xc Silver, 170k miles

Non Volvo cars:
1991 Ford F-350, 80k(180k?) miles
2004 Toyota Sienna, 124k miles

User avatar
bmdubya1198
Posts: 6338
Joined: 30 December 2014
Year and Model: 2K V70R M56
Location: Charlotte, NC
Has thanked: 304 times
Been thanked: 517 times

Post by bmdubya1198 »

I've been fighting with this single tie rod for over 3 hours now, how do you get the inner tie rod out? I've tried vise grips, a couple different wrenches that won't fit in that small space, and now a pipe wrench, but there is no room for any swing. It's always either too tight or too lose, and if I get it on there and hit it hard enough, I'll knock into my jack stand, and I really don't feel like dropping my car on myself today.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm stuck with what I've got for now, I can't go buy a tool.
00 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 214k
07 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 220k
92 245 White/Beige 249k
91 944 Turbo 175k
…and a bunch of other stuff
Sold-
03 S60 2.4T
00 S70 GLT
98 V70 GLT
93 944
98 S90
95 850 GLT
01 S60 2.4T
05 S60R M66
08 S40 2.4i
88 744 Turbo M46

User avatar
theWIFES_S70
Posts: 1218
Joined: 24 July 2015
Year and Model: 1998 S70 base
Location: Queens, New York
Has thanked: 61 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Post by theWIFES_S70 »

bmdubya1198 wrote: 27 Apr 2017, 13:32 I've been fighting with this single tie rod for over 3 hours now, how do you get the inner tie rod out? I've tried vise grips, a couple different wrenches that won't fit in that small space, and now a pipe wrench, but there is no room for any swing. It's always either too tight or too lose, and if I get it on there and hit it hard enough, I'll knock into my jack stand, and I really don't feel like dropping my car on myself today.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm stuck with what I've got for now, I can't go buy a tool.
Hey bmdubya, are you getting underneath the car? I found that the only way I could use a pipe wrench was if I was right underneath the inner tie rod. And you won't get a lot of swing, but it'll be enough to crack it loose. Make sure you apply opposite pressure on the rack to prevent too much unnatural movement on the rack. I went the route of this tool after doing it on one side with a pipe wrench http://www.autozone.com/test-scan-and-s ... /94645_0_0. Since then I've been able to swap out inner tie rods pretty easily. Good luck.
Retired:
1998 Volvo S70, N/A, 5-speed, 187K
2007 Volvo S40, 2.4i, 5-speed, 121K
2015 Volvo S60, T5, 85K

cn90
Posts: 8258
Joined: 31 March 2010
Year and Model: 2004 V70 2.5T
Location: Omaha NE
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 471 times

Post by cn90 »

@bmdubya1198,

You have a BMW and probably know that the water pump wrench fits the inner tie rod. Most European ZF rack uses 32-mm type.
Give it a try, below is the photo from 1998 BMW 528i:


Image
2004 V70 2.5T 100K+
2005 XC90 2.5T 110K+

User avatar
bmdubya1198
Posts: 6338
Joined: 30 December 2014
Year and Model: 2K V70R M56
Location: Charlotte, NC
Has thanked: 304 times
Been thanked: 517 times

Post by bmdubya1198 »

Thanks guys for the quick responses, I ended up getting it off with a large pair of Channel Lock pliers.
I use a regular 32mm wrench on the Bimmer's fan, which I tried on this but it wasn't thin enough. I should get a thinner profile 32mm for this purpose and for the E39, because I know I'll need it again. I plan to keep this car for a while and I know the E39 will need another water pump next January... it's a routine now :lol: .
00 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 214k
07 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 220k
92 245 White/Beige 249k
91 944 Turbo 175k
…and a bunch of other stuff
Sold-
03 S60 2.4T
00 S70 GLT
98 V70 GLT
93 944
98 S90
95 850 GLT
01 S60 2.4T
05 S60R M66
08 S40 2.4i
88 744 Turbo M46

cn90
Posts: 8258
Joined: 31 March 2010
Year and Model: 2004 V70 2.5T
Location: Omaha NE
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 471 times

Post by cn90 »

Yeah, buy the "proper" 32-mm BMW Fan Clutch wrench lol...
2004 V70 2.5T 100K+
2005 XC90 2.5T 110K+

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post