1999 s70 t5 ignition tumbler?

speedyt5 · Post by **speedyt5** » 10 Dec 2014, 22:06

99 S70.. Takes about a minute of me messing around with the key to get it out of position I and start the car, I'm guessing its time to change the tumbler? Thats all it could be right? Before I plunk down 295.00 for a new tumbler! I wish Robert had a video on this!!

Post by **cn90** » 11 Dec 2014, 06:17

I posted DIY a while back...
A lot of tricks involved...

speedyt5 · Post by **speedyt5** » 11 Dec 2014, 08:57

cn90 wrote:I posted DIY a while back...
A lot of tricks involved...

Thanks I will have to search for that. I guess my question is, could it be anything else? It doesn't even want to turn from putting the key in to position I. The other posters say that they could at least turn to position I, then their key wouldn't turn. Also when you say tricks, would it be tricks to get it to work without buying a new one or just how to install it. You have 2,800 posts to search! Ha.

Post by **cn90** » 11 Dec 2014, 09:49

"Tricks" refer to how to remove the old tumbler. I already posted on that thread so you are familiar with the issues.

Post by **FLXC90** » 11 Dec 2014, 12:20

Speedy, my POS70 ignition is screwy too. I apply a little counterclockwise pressure, then I can turn it clockwise. Just don't try to break the key off!

Herb Goltz · Post by **Herb Goltz** » 12 Dec 2014, 15:02

It is possible to drill out the plate at the bottom of the mechanical part of the locking mechanism to allow the key to turn freely. You will lose the steering lock functionality if you do it. I did this with my 2000 V70 when I realized I would be spending ~10% of the car's value to fix it!

This approach has been covered here, so you will find it by searching the archives. The general failure mode is that a small piece of the locking mechanism breaks off and jams the mechanical part of the ignition switch. If you drop the bottom plastic cladding, you will see a cadmium plated steel square piece about 3 cm across. Drill out the staking points into the pot metal, and this piece will drop out, along with a spring and a tiny broken piece of the lock mechanism. After that the key will turn freely. This approach has worked for me for years now.

Good luck!

c70_lindsay · Post by **c70_lindsay** » 12 Dec 2014, 17:16

I had a similar problem after I tried to put my car in neutral (auto trans), using the shift lock override button by the shifter. There is a mechanical connection between the shifter and the ignition that I believe wasn't working the way it should causing the key to not turn or come out of the ignition. The problem seemed to fix itself (for now at least). I know this might not be that helpful..... maybe someone else knows more about it than me and add to this.

Post by **mecheng** » 12 Dec 2014, 17:32

Is your shifter button sticking? Happened to me

Post by **cn90** » 17 Dec 2014, 15:42

Herb Goltz wrote:It is possible to drill out the plate at the bottom of the mechanical part of the locking mechanism to allow the key to turn freely. You will lose the steering lock functionality if you do it. I did this with my 2000 V70 when I realized I would be spending ~10% of the car's value to fix it!

This approach has been covered here, so you will find it by searching the archives. The general failure mode is that a small piece of the locking mechanism breaks off and jams the mechanical part of the ignition switch. If you drop the bottom plastic cladding, you will see a cadmium plated steel square piece about 3 cm across. Drill out the staking points into the pot metal, and this piece will drop out, along with a spring and a tiny broken piece of the lock mechanism. After that the key will turn freely. This approach has worked for me for years now.

Good luck!

Hi Herb Goltz,

Just want to confirm that there is no need to remove the tumbler from the steering column, correct?
If so then, simply remove the bottom plastic cover, drill the rectagular plate out.
Please confirm.

PS: I last replaced the tumbler ($250 part) at 90K, now it is doing the same thing again at 165K!!!
Time to get rid of the guillotine.

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Post by **cn90** » 17 Dec 2014, 15:53

I just did a google search using key words: "Volvo tumbler drill tumbler bottom plate".

Interesting search results, some poeple do exactly that, removing the rectagular plate, fish out all the bad parts.
All you have is no steering lock (who cares about that feature at this age and mileage).