98 s70 T5 Tires causing rim damage

[captainkong]

I always check work after it has been done, and most definitely would have noticed some sneaky business like that. I'm buying a new set of rims/ tires and will use these for a couple months until winter arrives, and see if damage occurs then. No damage would indicate poor quality tires, correct? these tires were fairly cheap at 500 a set.

I however did notice my balance weight has shifted because I can see an outline where it used to be and now its in a different place. Is it possibly high force turning would cause the weights to shift, thus causing the grinding effect?

[misha]

Damage looks like the wheel has been scrubing against sidewalk.
Tire can't damage the rim in neither case.Even if it blows it couldn't damage the rim.

[difflock54]

It might be a case of someone driving your vehicle without your knowledge that has gone and curbed your alloys.
Who else drives the car or has a means of accessing the keys?

[Homebrand]

I always check work after it has been done, and most definitely would have noticed some sneaky business like that. I'm buying a new set of rims/ tires and will use these for a couple months until winter arrives, and see if damage occurs then. No damage would indicate poor quality tires, correct? these tires were fairly cheap at 500 a set.

I however did notice my balance weight has shifted because I can see an outline where it used to be and now its in a different place. Is it possibly high force turning would cause the weights to shift, thus causing the grinding effect?

The rim is damaged because you have curb rash. It's as simple as that.
You may not necessarily feel when you rub a curb or other obstacle especially when it is very light damage that you have.


It is NOT damage from a tyre being fitted (edit:it IS possible, but the likelihood of that sort of rim damage from fitting the tyre with a sidewall profile of the type of tyre you have is extremely unlikely) nor is it damage from the wheel rubbing anything on the car. It is certainly nothing to do with the quality of your tyres.

The balance weight could have incrementally shifted from being knocked/rubbed.

Running new tyres/rims and not having any more damage simply means you haven't rubbed any curbs.

A simple way to check (which you don't need to do because IT IS curb rash) is to paint the outer edge of the rim black and then take your car for a high speed thrash with all the hard corners you like. Then park in an open car park with no curbs and look at the painted area. They will not have new curb rash on them.

(Don't drive too crazy)

[JRL]

All tires that are the same size are not the same. Some can be as much as an inch wider!
Next, have you checked the steering stops? They may me worn out or gone completely which allows you to turn the wheel farther than it's supposed to go!

[FLXC90]

I'll ask again, specifically, what kind of tires are these, brand, 205/55/w16, then there will be an alphanumeric like 91h that tells whether the tire is rated for 500 lbs of load carrying, or 1200 pounds.

I say go for the go-pro, watch the tire that gets the most damage, because it is the vertical face of the lip that is scraping, so unless you roll the car up on its side when you drive, it shouldnever contact anything

[captainkong]

All tires that are the same size are not the same. Some can be as much as an inch wider!
Next, have you checked the steering stops? They may me worn out or gone completely which allows you to turn the wheel farther than it's supposed to go!

It's funny you say that JRL, because I have a hard time doing full/tight turns. When trying to turn the wheel all the left or right I can hear it rubbing against the car. How would I go about checking the steering stops?

I know I have a problem with my joints right now because I hear clicking when doing very tight turns(only comes from the right side)

And the whole point of me buying new rims/tires is for summer use, and keep the current ones for winter. I would not spend over 2 grand just to see what's causing the damage haha. I do suppose it's possible for me to graze a curb hard enough to cause damage but light enough for me not to know when driving? I just have a hard time believing that because of how paranoid low sitting cars and curbs make me.

I will paint the outer edges black and do some good hard turns and see where that takes me.

Thanks everyone.

[RussB]

I will paint the outer edges black and do some good hard turns and see where that takes me.

Thanks everyone.

Around and around in circles, just like this thread!

[scot850]

Interesting point Jim makes, but the damage shown is on the out-side edge of the rim. Can't think of anything on the car that can connect with that area other than pavement.

The stops are a good point though to check. If you look under the car from the front, and look at the area just inside the front area of the front wheels, you should see what looks like a horn coming out from the front hub. That is the steering limiter. It connects (or should) with a nylon pad on the front edge of the lower control arm. This is what limits the steering. These nylon pads are held on with 2 pop-rivets and an break off with age so check they are there! I recall buying replacements in the past for them, I think it was from Volvo.

Some folk recommend greasing the pads with silicon grease, as when the limit arm touches them, and you go over a bump, it can make the groan.

Finally, check the steering rack is actually tight to the bottom of the car. Did once hear of one where the rack was not tight and allowed the steering to do strange things. Don't think this is the issue, but if no other solutions present themselves, then worth looking at less obvious causes.

Neil.

[captainkong]

Interesting point Jim makes, but the damage shown is on the out-side edge of the rim. Can't think of anything on the car that can connect with that area other than pavement.

The stops are a good point though to check. If you look under the car from the front, and look at the area just inside the front area of the front wheels, you should see what looks like a horn coming out from the front hub. That is the steering limiter. It connects (or should) with a nylon pad on the front edge of the lower control arm. This is what limits the steering. These nylon pads are held on with 2 pop-rivets and an break off with age so check they are there! I recall buying replacements in the past for them, I think it was from Volvo.

Some folk recommend greasing the pads with silicon grease, as when the limit arm touches them, and you go over a bump, it can make the groan.

Finally, check the steering rack is actually tight to the bottom of the car. Did once hear of one where the rack was not tight and allowed the steering to do strange things. Don't think this is the issue, but if no other solutions present themselves, then worth looking at less obvious causes.

Neil.

Thanks for the info scot850. I was checking under the car yesterday and the stops were not there on either side. I'm ordering a new set.