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1998 V70 Spark plugs look dirty, but are they normal?

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Volvo Repair Database 1998 V70 Spark plugs look dirty, but are they normal?

Post by brunocerous »

Hi all,

I'm a longtime Volvo admirer and relatively new owner of a used '98 V70 base model. Recently, I had some CEL blinking while driving to get my inspection done, turned around and got my scanner out. I was hoping for some insight.

After seeing a misfire code (P0304) in cylinder 4, I pulled out all the spark plugs (Volvo OEM via FCP Euro, replaced about two months ago) and saw some dark-colored residue.
Spark plug No. 4
Spark plug No. 4
On spark plug No. 3 (and No. 2, too, I think) there was also a light-colored, ashy residue visible on it.
Spark plug No. 3 with some white-ish ashy residue
Spark plug No. 3 with some white-ish ashy residue
They look almost as dirty as the 2-year-old Denso plugs I pulled out of the car just two months ago. I recently also added STP Fuel Injector Cleaner), running 91 octane and then 89 octane in my last two fill-ups.

My question is: Is this level of soot normal?

Should I try a higher-quality fuel cleaner, like Lucas Oil? Use 93 octane?
2000 V70, base, MT, 'The Silver Bullet'
1998 V70, base, AT, 'Blue Steel'
1998 V70 T5, AT, project
2004 XC90 AWD (sold)
1999 V70 XC AWD, AT (RIP)
1998 S70 T5, AT (RIP)

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Post by Sommerfeldt »

I don't think I've seen plugs that dirty before... and certainly not after 2 months. Not normal.

I'm not sure about your model, but it's pretty clear that the 850s and early V70 do NOT enjoy the multi-electrode sparkplugs. You should probably try a properly gapped single electrode set, and make sure that the rest of the ignition parts are up to Stage 0-reqs.

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Post by jcdillin »

Ehh, I think you may have been sent the wrong thing if you ordered real volvo plugs.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/volvo- ... 90-8692071

I only use those or bosch copper electrode and properly gapped.
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Post by theWIFES_S70 »

Say it ain't so, FCP!
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Post by brunocerous »

I see the difference! But that FCP link tells me, "This part does not fit your 1998 Volvo V70 Base."
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Post by cn90 »

Stay away from Denso plugs, they are known to break the tip off (Search Volvospeed).

- Switch to NGK Iridium BKR6EIX and you will never look back.
- Although Iridium plug is $7/each (Advance Auto Parts), Iridium easily lasts some 100K. The car will run very smoothly, you may see better fuel mileage.
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Post by brunocerous »

Sommerfeldt wrote:I don't think I've seen plugs that dirty before... and certainly not after 2 months. Not normal.

I'm not sure about your model, but it's pretty clear that the 850s and early V70 do NOT enjoy the multi-electrode sparkplugs. You should probably try a properly gapped single electrode set, and make sure that the rest of the ignition parts are up to Stage 0-reqs.

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Thank you. I might have to swing by the auto parts store to get replacements.
2000 V70, base, MT, 'The Silver Bullet'
1998 V70, base, AT, 'Blue Steel'
1998 V70 T5, AT, project
2004 XC90 AWD (sold)
1999 V70 XC AWD, AT (RIP)
1998 S70 T5, AT (RIP)

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2000 V70, base, MT, 'The Silver Bullet'
1998 V70, base, AT, 'Blue Steel'
1998 V70 T5, AT, project
2004 XC90 AWD (sold)
1999 V70 XC AWD, AT (RIP)
1998 S70 T5, AT (RIP)

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Post by rguzz »

Do a compression test +- leakdown when you change the plugs (again!). You seem to have a couple of wet plugs, from running rich, incomplete combustion or from oil, though looks a bit more like fouling from gas than oil. Do you use any or much oil? My 850t plugs don't last terribly long because I have what I assume are leaky valve guide seals. Great compression, though. So I experiment with various grades of oil to try to keep consumption reasonable, which is working well enough. I'm a convert to 93 octane gas, finally, as well. Learning as I go along...

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Post by cn90 »

Take the fuel injectors out and clean them to avoid leaky injectors.
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