Serpentine belt -- pulley?
- erikv11
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I have never heard of pulleys / bearings failing in the serp path on these cars. On all of my Volvos I just check them and recently, I finally found one that was getting old and spinning too freely, on my V70 (250 k). I replaced it. Even if it did fail, the serp path and timing path are well separated, you are not going to see damage to the timing belt.
140k is a very young P80 engine, you could easily wait another few years if the bearing is not showing signs of problems.
It is very easy to replace, doesn't really matter that you are already in there for timing belt work.
140k is a very young P80 engine, you could easily wait another few years if the bearing is not showing signs of problems.
It is very easy to replace, doesn't really matter that you are already in there for timing belt work.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
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scot850
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It is your car and you have enough info to do what you are comfortable with.
As to the serpentine belt not causing issue, ask my friend whose belt came off after a pulley failed and as it flailed it smashed the timing belt cover and dislodged the TB smashing the engine valves. I am all for caution, but my personal view is of only wanting to do the job once. In fairness the idler pulley is easy enough to do and a good mechanic should be able to determine if any part is in imminent need of replacement.
Good luck!
Neil.
As to the serpentine belt not causing issue, ask my friend whose belt came off after a pulley failed and as it flailed it smashed the timing belt cover and dislodged the TB smashing the engine valves. I am all for caution, but my personal view is of only wanting to do the job once. In fairness the idler pulley is easy enough to do and a good mechanic should be able to determine if any part is in imminent need of replacement.
Good luck!
Neil.
2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
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- erikv11
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Neil, serp belt taking out the timing belt can happen sure, but it is a rare, rare thing. Was your friend's car a P80? Search this forum I don't know if you
will find even one or two (other?) examples of it, by and large those pulleys just don't fail. Just because it happened on one car, doesn't mean it will happen on them all.
This falls near the fine line between maintenance and restoration. Granted, as these cars age those two begin to blur together. At any rate, if your goal is restoration or you've done everything else and just want to work on the car then you've probably got the money and motivation to just replace things. On the other hand if you're just trying to keep a fleet (or one car) on the road then it's good to know there are different options.
will find even one or two (other?) examples of it, by and large those pulleys just don't fail. Just because it happened on one car, doesn't mean it will happen on them all.
This falls near the fine line between maintenance and restoration. Granted, as these cars age those two begin to blur together. At any rate, if your goal is restoration or you've done everything else and just want to work on the car then you've probably got the money and motivation to just replace things. On the other hand if you're just trying to keep a fleet (or one car) on the road then it's good to know there are different options.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/tech/servi ... -Turbo.pdf
LUBRICATING AUXILIARY DRIVE BELT TENSIONER
Fig. 6: Auxiliary Drive Belt Tensioner Lubrication Points
Courtesy of Volvo Cars of North America.
NOTE: The automatic tensioner for the auxiliary drive belt must be
greased every 30,000 miles (45,000 km) or if an abnormal
noise is heard from the tensioner.
NOTE: The auxiliary drive belt and automatic tensioner must be
removed from engine in order to properly lubricate.
LUBRICATING AUXILIARY DRIVE BELT TENSIONER
Fig. 6: Auxiliary Drive Belt Tensioner Lubrication Points
Courtesy of Volvo Cars of North America.
NOTE: The automatic tensioner for the auxiliary drive belt must be
greased every 30,000 miles (45,000 km) or if an abnormal
noise is heard from the tensioner.
NOTE: The auxiliary drive belt and automatic tensioner must be
removed from engine in order to properly lubricate.
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scot850
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The car was a P80. But like I said, each to their own, and a good mechanic should be able to assess the condition of the bearings and decide if they need to be replaced or good to stay. I don't replace every part for the sake of it but as an engineer my view is if in doubt swap it out!
Never seen the tensioner lube info before, so need to have a read up on that. Mind you the mileage my car does that may take about 30 years to get to that mileage!
Neil.
Never seen the tensioner lube info before, so need to have a read up on that. Mind you the mileage my car does that may take about 30 years to get to that mileage!
Neil.
2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold
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Wow -- great link to that tensioner lubrication -- actually I was told that tensioner noise was my issue. I see reference to the 850 but is this something that should be done on a 98 S70 T5 as well? Is it that 93b98534 in the drawing? Looks like mine if I remember (or close).
If so -- wonder what kind of head that screw is and if anyone has done this before? Maybe getting some grease in there is all I need.
Thanks ! it's worth at try if you can do this with the S70
If so -- wonder what kind of head that screw is and if anyone has done this before? Maybe getting some grease in there is all I need.
Thanks ! it's worth at try if you can do this with the S70
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cn90
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- Re lubing: don't confuse lubing the pivoting area (the part that oscillates back and forth), which is not needed in the spring-type tensioner such as in the P80 car.
- In my BMW, I have re-greased the bearing before, if you are careful enough, you can gently lift the seal a bit at the "lip" side (where it meets the rotating surface), inject some grease (I use a syringe and small blunt needle). Another option is remove the seal (but be careful not to destroy it), pack some grease, then re-install the seal using appropriate socket.
- You keep asking what screw, I already answered you above. See my posts earlier and the link I posted before!!!
It is a Torx if you read my replies.
- In my BMW, I have re-greased the bearing before, if you are careful enough, you can gently lift the seal a bit at the "lip" side (where it meets the rotating surface), inject some grease (I use a syringe and small blunt needle). Another option is remove the seal (but be careful not to destroy it), pack some grease, then re-install the seal using appropriate socket.
- You keep asking what screw, I already answered you above. See my posts earlier and the link I posted before!!!
It is a Torx if you read my replies.
2004 V70 2.5T 100K+
2005 XC90 2.5T 110K+
2005 XC90 2.5T 110K+
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