Login Register

98 S70 N/A: Question about coolant and expansion tanks

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

Post Reply
User avatar
rspi
Posts: 7303
Joined: 5 November 2011
Year and Model: 850 T-5R Wagon
Location: Cincinnati OH
Has thanked: 34 times
Been thanked: 72 times
Contact:

Re: 98 S70 N/A: Question about coolant and expansion tanks

Post by rspi »

'95 855 T-5R M, Panther - 22/28 mpg, 546,000 miles
'95 955 T-5R Yellow Wagon, Lemonade, 180,000 miles
--------------------
Volvo's of past: '87 740 GLE, '79 262C Bertone, '78 264, 960's, '98 S70 GLT, '95 850 T-5R YellowVolvo Repair Videos

User avatar
theWIFES_S70
Posts: 1218
Joined: 24 July 2015
Year and Model: 1998 S70 base
Location: Queens, New York
Has thanked: 61 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Post by theWIFES_S70 »

rspi wrote: 12 Sep 2017, 19:53 I apologize for not reading all of the post but that really looks like oil. I would thing that either the engine is somehow leaking oil into the coolant system, or it's transmission fluid getting in through the rad. The thing about that is, if it's manual, there is NO connection to the transmission. If it's NA there is no oil through the radiator.

Send an oil sample to Blackstone labs. They will at least be able to tell you if there is coolant in the oil.
:cry:

I meant to send one off but by the time I remembered, all the oil was out already... This is where my engine was 10K ago.
MM98S70_2nd_oil_change.jpg
MM98S70_2nd_oil_change.jpg (130.61 KiB) Viewed 2094 times
Retired:
1998 Volvo S70, N/A, 5-speed, 187K
2007 Volvo S40, 2.4i, 5-speed, 121K
2015 Volvo S60, T5, 85K

User avatar
rspi
Posts: 7303
Joined: 5 November 2011
Year and Model: 850 T-5R Wagon
Location: Cincinnati OH
Has thanked: 34 times
Been thanked: 72 times
Contact:

Post by rspi »

Well, if you are loosing coolant fast, you can send a sample in as soon as you loose a bottle.
'95 855 T-5R M, Panther - 22/28 mpg, 546,000 miles
'95 955 T-5R Yellow Wagon, Lemonade, 180,000 miles
--------------------
Volvo's of past: '87 740 GLE, '79 262C Bertone, '78 264, 960's, '98 S70 GLT, '95 850 T-5R YellowVolvo Repair Videos

mecheng
Posts: 1271
Joined: 27 March 2014
Year and Model: 1998 Volvo S70 T5
Location: Ontario, Canada
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 21 times

Post by mecheng »

Always use Volvo coolant! There is a reason they have their own. If they were trying to just make money they would market their own auto trans fluid, brake fluid which they don't. It is a European formulation for European cars. Same goes for Japanese cars.
The all in one coolants are for cheap asses. Best saying: "don't be penny wise but pound foolish."
1998 Volvo S70 T5 - SE - 240km - Sold July 2018
1997 Volvo 850 GLT - 190km
Boost is my drug of choice

User avatar
theWIFES_S70
Posts: 1218
Joined: 24 July 2015
Year and Model: 1998 S70 base
Location: Queens, New York
Has thanked: 61 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Post by theWIFES_S70 »

mecheng wrote: 14 Sep 2017, 06:37 Always use Volvo coolant! There is a reason they have their own. If they were trying to just make money they would market their own auto trans fluid, brake fluid which they don't. It is a European formulation for European cars. Same goes for Japanese cars.
The all in one coolants are for cheap asses. Best saying: "don't be penny wise but pound foolish."
I know, I know... To be honest, based on June's recommendation, I'd change my coolant if I didn't have to wait until Spring to recycle it. (In NYC, you can only recycle coolant 4 days a year. And just try to get a mechanic to accept your old coolant!)

Without having this thread de-evolve into another coolant thread, I thought the coolants to use, in order of goodness, were the following:
1. Volvo
2. Pentosin
3. Zerex G05
5. Anything Green with a label
6. No-name green...
7. Distilled water
8. Water

Am I wrong here?
Retired:
1998 Volvo S70, N/A, 5-speed, 187K
2007 Volvo S40, 2.4i, 5-speed, 121K
2015 Volvo S60, T5, 85K

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 35308
Joined: 17 February 2013
Year and Model: 99: V70s S70s,05 V70
Location: Port Jefferson Long Island NY
Has thanked: 1506 times
Been thanked: 3819 times

Post by abscate »

Marco..drop coolant off up here, we can discharge into drains up here. No for that in NYC, of course.
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 XC90-in-Red
Link to Maintenance record thread

DrJammer
Posts: 195
Joined: 24 October 2013
Year and Model: 2000 V70XC - 195k
Location: PA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 1 time

Post by DrJammer »

I had a coolant tank that looked like that earlier this year. My radiator was shot. I was getting coolant into the ATF and something, ATF or oil, into my coolant. Replaced the rad with the Nissens and all seemed well until I noticed a slow leak. I just replaced the expansion tank with OE volvo, the old one had some cracks on the bottom nozzle. Come to find out I busted the sensor somehow. Just replaced the sensor with a URO in 5 minutes by the lift expansion tank and power steering box and replace method shown by abscate (showed my 5 year old too).

During that, I think the bottom coolant hose (P/N 9445378) had some cracking/weeping. It must have been the original spot of the coolant loss.

Can I get away with a URO hose for this or stick with OEM? Any thoughts on how to get enough coolant out to replace without draining all? I always use volvo coolant, and just replaced it 2x this year and I'd rather not drain the whole thing to replace this hose.
Ex-Volvos
2004 v70 N/A - traded in at 75k
2008 S60 - leased
1998 S70 T5 - might still have her if I knew about this forum when I owned it

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 35308
Joined: 17 February 2013
Year and Model: 99: V70s S70s,05 V70
Location: Port Jefferson Long Island NY
Has thanked: 1506 times
Been thanked: 3819 times

Post by abscate »

If I could get to both ends easily and I can inspect the hose totally, and were short on bread, I would use a URO here. It is still under pressure, but you are going to see any leak quickly from within car.

To replace - lift reservoir carefully and only enough to find the level sensor disconnect, remove it.

Now you can tip the reservoir enough to have the bottom nipple dry so you can replace the hose without draining coolant
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 XC90-in-Red
Link to Maintenance record thread

mecheng
Posts: 1271
Joined: 27 March 2014
Year and Model: 1998 Volvo S70 T5
Location: Ontario, Canada
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 21 times

Post by mecheng »

theWIFES_S70 wrote: 14 Sep 2017, 20:48
mecheng wrote: 14 Sep 2017, 06:37 Always use Volvo coolant! There is a reason they have their own. If they were trying to just make money they would market their own auto trans fluid, brake fluid which they don't. It is a European formulation for European cars. Same goes for Japanese cars.
The all in one coolants are for cheap asses. Best saying: "don't be penny wise but pound foolish."
I know, I know... To be honest, based on June's recommendation, I'd change my coolant if I didn't have to wait until Spring to recycle it. (In NYC, you can only recycle coolant 4 days a year. And just try to get a mechanic to accept your old coolant!)

Without having this thread de-evolve into another coolant thread, I thought the coolants to use, in order of goodness, were the following:
1. Volvo
2. Pentosin
3. Zerex G05
5. Anything Green with a label
6. No-name green...
7. Distilled water
8. Water

Am I wrong here?
Yes but I would only item 1 and 2. Zerex is not a direct copy of Pentosin. Price delta is probably a fancy coffee.
1998 Volvo S70 T5 - SE - 240km - Sold July 2018
1997 Volvo 850 GLT - 190km
Boost is my drug of choice

User avatar
wizechatmgr
Posts: 1798
Joined: 12 January 2017
Year and Model: 1999 V70 XC AWD 2.4T
Location: Albany, NY area
Has thanked: 45 times
Been thanked: 126 times
Contact:

Post by wizechatmgr »

abscate wrote: 15 Sep 2017, 05:22 Marco..drop coolant off up here, we can discharge into drains up here. No for that in NYC, of course.
Just don't do that on my side of the river on a rainy day - as it will end up in the river after the plant has to go into bypass after exceeding capacity. =p

Makes for an interesting swim in the Hudson as well...
Wisdom requires knowledge as a prerequisite, but knowledge can be developed due to a lack of wisdom.
In order to learn how to fix something, you must first learn how to break it.
1999 V70 XC AWD 2.4 T -- ~231k miles
1998 V70 2.4 NA -- ~184k miles

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post