Change cartridge to canister oil filter?

[jimmy57]

The cartridge filter thing makes me mad. I have two Ford diesels with cartridge filters and two with metal canister types. The cartridge inside the can is damn near identical and there is a relief valve inside the can, all for $10.97 for manufacturer's brand. filter insert cartridge that is only a pleated paper sleeve and an O ring, $19.97. Fram and others go even higher. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I get Volvo filters at dealer for something around $8. I get lowest ine brand at OReilly's for $11. Fram and other brands of note are much more. I guess inserts are filters that somebody sits down and cuts open a can filter and harvests the insert? The markup is filter cutting labor? I fully understand business costs and margins but the shipping of the heavier can filters and all the parts that make the can with bypass/relief valve and they are less money. go figure. (this rant may be over for now but I still get pissed with every insert oil change)

[Rattnalle]

I meant in advance as in before you need it. Keep one around at all times if you do your oil changes yourself and you'll never have to think about it.

[abscate]

I clean my cartridge filters with clean, used engine oil, which I later sell. I got that idea from the classic tome, 'The Frugal Scot'

[Georgeandkira]

You clean your cartridge filters with clean, used engine oil...? which you later sell? Are you feeling OK?

My take on cartridge prices is:
1) The element is stronger than the ones hidden in cans so they "have" to charge more. I'm ignoring how assembly costs and parts effect price.
2) Element filters' market segment was trucks and fancy cars. This set the price-bar high. Cars came along and got hit with the same stick.
3) They charge more because they can.

[MadeInJapan]

The cartridge filter thing makes me mad. I have two Ford diesels with cartridge filters and two with metal canister types. The cartridge inside the can is damn near identical and there is a relief valve inside the can, all for $10.97 for manufacturer's brand. filter insert cartridge that is only a pleated paper sleeve and an O ring, $19.97. Fram and others go even higher. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I get Volvo filters at dealer for something around $8. I get lowest ine brand at OReilly's for $11. Fram and other brands of note are much more. I guess inserts are filters that somebody sits down and cuts open a can filter and harvests the insert? The markup is filter cutting labor? I fully understand business costs and margins but the shipping of the heavier can filters and all the parts that make the can with bypass/relief valve and they are less money. go figure. (this rant may be over for now but I still get pissed with every insert oil change)

Knowing Volvo the insert was done to cut down on pollution. It's an environmental thing.

[chrism]

Just buy 10 or 12 Mahle filters from FCP ahead of time. You’ll pay about $3 each. Have them throw in a few drain plug washers also. Maybe even an extra drain plug also to have on hand for that one time you have to take it to Jiffy Lube and they destroy the plug. (Speaking from personal experience here.) You’ll still be ahead of the game money-wise.

[abscate]

$3? I pay $6.50 in lots of 10...am I the mark?

George. You can turn oil filters upside down and reuse them you know , the dirt then filters upside down.

Just another way to stick it to the Mann...

[Georgeandkira]

You don't turn the filter up-side-down...you turn the drain plug gasket up-side-down. Ha-Ha.

[jimmy57]

Knowing Volvo the insert was done to cut down on pollution. It's an environmental thing.

The insert filter system is legally required in some places. The recycle percent is much higher and rendering oil out of steel can filters is hard and leaves too much behind. I like cartridge filters a lot. You get to see what is in them after removal without any work. I do not like being ripped off by paying twice as much for 1/4 of the material and manufacturing costs. At least for the ones where the cartridge is so much more. Volvo dealer price for the two kinds of filters is pretty much the same.

[chrism]

$3? I pay $6.50 in lots of 10...am I the mark?

Wellllllll, $3.00 (or less) the last time I bought a big batch. I’m almost out of them so I’m probably in for sticker shock when I reorder. Kinda like light bulbs. Don’t get me started on that one.