Hello, I'm trying to diagnose my not starting issuenof my 97 850NA and I'm down to my immobilizer relay. I am new to using a Multimeter. Could someone explain what terminals I should be probing and possibly what ohm readings I should see?
Thank you.
Dustin
Testing 210 Relay with multimeter
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I would say that the green connector has the coils which should have around 5 ohms across them.
That only gives an indication of coil failure which is extremely rare.
The most common type of failure in relays is burned out points so you'll need to open the case with some fine jeweler screwdrivers by prying on the case at as many points as you can while pulling the grey cover off the base. You'll see some polished contacts inside with a gap between them. They are the points and are usually pitted and burned.
That only gives an indication of coil failure which is extremely rare.
The most common type of failure in relays is burned out points so you'll need to open the case with some fine jeweler screwdrivers by prying on the case at as many points as you can while pulling the grey cover off the base. You'll see some polished contacts inside with a gap between them. They are the points and are usually pitted and burned.
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You should just get a pick and pull one for 3 bucks And swap to diagnose. Check classifieds here too
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This information may not help with your specific relay, but often the pins are labeled with 15, 30, 31, 87, 87a. I think in your picture it's possible to read 15 and 30 on a couple of the pins.
From what I've gathered, the these numbers are part of a DIN specification. To decode the numbers, you can look them up (for example, http://www.bosch-classic.com/media/en/b ... nungen.pdf )
15 = Switched positive after battery (ignition-switch output)
30 = Line from battery positive terminal (direct)
31 = Ground
87 = Input
87a = Output
From what I've gathered, the these numbers are part of a DIN specification. To decode the numbers, you can look them up (for example, http://www.bosch-classic.com/media/en/b ... nungen.pdf )
15 = Switched positive after battery (ignition-switch output)
30 = Line from battery positive terminal (direct)
31 = Ground
87 = Input
87a = Output
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Ok, thank you. I'll test it today and probably take it apart and re flow joints as needed. I'm trying to get to the bottom of my problem.
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I had never seen that relay go bad.
The problem might lay in the immobiliser box(black box and it says Volvo immobiliser on it).
It's under the steering wheel panel .
But again....U.S market didn't had chipped keys until '98,so you shouldn't have immo ecu.
The problem might lay in the immobiliser box(black box and it says Volvo immobiliser on it).
It's under the steering wheel panel .
But again....U.S market didn't had chipped keys until '98,so you shouldn't have immo ecu.
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That’s the “Guard Alarm” security module.
There’s a lot more going on in there than
just relays. And IIRC, the three pin green
connector is the input from the key fob
receiver over on the passenger side kick.
I think 210/211 module ia also where the
code from the fob lives, so if you replace it,
you’ll probably have to reprogram your fob
code into it.
There’s a lot more going on in there than
just relays. And IIRC, the three pin green
connector is the input from the key fob
receiver over on the passenger side kick.
I think 210/211 module ia also where the
code from the fob lives, so if you replace it,
you’ll probably have to reprogram your fob
code into it.
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Finally, after a year, I found this very informative thread again of how to disable the immobilizer of the 210/211 relay and still keep the keyless entry.
http://www.forums.turbobricks.com/showt ... p?t=238812
http://www.forums.turbobricks.com/showt ... p?t=238812
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I don't want to bring bad news...but U.S market immobiliser system is totally different from EU market.
If you have chipped key in '96 this will not work.
If you have chipped key in '96 this will not work.
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History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
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History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS
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Yeah, true, but remember this is about the FOB immobilizer which sits in relay 210/211 additionally to the chipped key.
Some day i locked my car with the remote and then it wouldn't unlock with the remote. Opening the door by key only triggered the alarm and I had to remove relay 210/211 and bridge 50e and 50? with a paper clip to drive home.
Some day i locked my car with the remote and then it wouldn't unlock with the remote. Opening the door by key only triggered the alarm and I had to remove relay 210/211 and bridge 50e and 50? with a paper clip to drive home.
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black on black, M56 swapped, Quaife, TME 2.5 exhaust, 17 inch Volants
2010 V70 D5,
Saville Gray on tan leather, 18 inch Odysseus
black on black, M56 swapped, Quaife, TME 2.5 exhaust, 17 inch Volants
2010 V70 D5,
Saville Gray on tan leather, 18 inch Odysseus
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