Hi everyone I've tried swapping the relay, the stalk and now the motor and I still have this issue. The top wiper setting doesn't work and the wipers don't park when I turn them off. The connections on the stalk side and the motor seem fine to me.
Does this only leave the wiring to and from the relay board as the potential issue? It seems really inaccessable so im not sure where to go from here.
This is on my 99 s70
Wiper issue - no park, no intermittent sitting
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Wiper issue - no park, no intermittent sitting
07 V50 T5 AWD M66 ~146k miles
87 Ford Ranger 2wd Manual - 2.3 Thunderbird/SVO Turbo swap project
99 s70 NA Manual - ~270k miles - Died when a friend shot it up a highway embankment
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99 s70 NA Manual - ~270k miles - Died when a friend shot it up a highway embankment
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Do the stop at the same spot every time or wherever they happens to be when you turn the switch off?
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1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
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Hi Rick, they stop wherever they happen to be. I park them manually by dipping the stalk till it's back in place.
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87 Ford Ranger 2wd Manual - 2.3 Thunderbird/SVO Turbo swap project
99 s70 NA Manual - ~270k miles - Died when a friend shot it up a highway embankment
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99 s70 NA Manual - ~270k miles - Died when a friend shot it up a highway embankment
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There is a cam driven switch on the wiper motor that keeps the motor alive until it reaches the park position. If the contacts on the switch are burnt or worn open the motor will not stay alive when you shut off the power with the wiper switch.
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1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
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That sounds like a problem internal to the wiper motor as a Rick points out. Time to hit the PnP
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Interesting.. I did just try swapping in a tested used motor and plugged it in without the blades on, but it had the same problem. No function on the intermittent setting and when I turned the switch off the motor would immediately shut off. So either I got a motor with the exact same problem, or I have a different issue.
07 V50 T5 AWD M66 ~146k miles
87 Ford Ranger 2wd Manual - 2.3 Thunderbird/SVO Turbo swap project
99 s70 NA Manual - ~270k miles - Died when a friend shot it up a highway embankment
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You can see the switch pin assignments and connects on the Alldata diagram below.
Looks like fun, but trouble shoot the switch by pulling the connector and testing for continuity as shown in the little insert
If there are no intermittants and the switch is good, the 2/4 relay (labelled 203) might be bad.
Looks like fun, but trouble shoot the switch by pulling the connector and testing for continuity as shown in the little insert
If there are no intermittants and the switch is good, the 2/4 relay (labelled 203) might be bad.
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Here is the switch guidance - the diagram is a bit sucky because you have to use the grey box to get the right assignments for pins 1-8, then use the map to see which assignment connects to which.
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Are positions 1 - 4 working as they should be or is there a defect other then not parking?smacknab wrote: ↑03 Apr 2020, 06:44 Interesting.. I did just try swapping in a tested used motor and plugged it in without the blades on, but it had the same problem. No function on the intermittent setting and when I turned the switch off the motor would immediately shut off. So either I got a motor with the exact same problem, or I have a different issue.
Another defect would be useful in diagnosing this.
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1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
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Based on the diagram, the position 3 isn't working. Also I had tried swapping the relay first with the 99 relay from a vw but I had the same problem regardless. I'll have to look into the wiring diagrams soon and pull out the multimeter!RickHaleParker wrote: ↑03 Apr 2020, 12:52
Are positions 1 - 4 working as they should be or is there a defect other then not parking?
Another defect would be useful in diagnosing this.
I should add, the car doesnt have the headlight wipers so i actually have no clue if those work either!
07 V50 T5 AWD M66 ~146k miles
87 Ford Ranger 2wd Manual - 2.3 Thunderbird/SVO Turbo swap project
99 s70 NA Manual - ~270k miles - Died when a friend shot it up a highway embankment
87 Ford Ranger 2wd Manual - 2.3 Thunderbird/SVO Turbo swap project
99 s70 NA Manual - ~270k miles - Died when a friend shot it up a highway embankment
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