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1998 V70 inner tie rods

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Re: 1998 V70 inner tie rods

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woodycaldercloggs wrote: 16 Apr 2020, 13:41 Once again - many thanks for your response.
One other question. Does it normally need a lot of effort to loosen the inner tie rod - I have read some others methods of doing this job and they don't seem to bother holding the steering rack at all.
Yes. Usually takes a lot of force as they are often held on with some type of threadlocker.
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woodycaldercloggs wrote: 16 Apr 2020, 13:41 Once again - many thanks for your response.
One other question. Does it normally need a lot of effort to loosen the inner tie rod - I have read some others methods of doing this job and they don't seem to bother holding the steering rack at all.

I have only done this job once so my sample size is 1... ie not statistically significant.

When I did the job I encountered this:
1) getting the outer tie rod out of wheel hub.. easy.
2) Then I attacked the jam nut so I could remove outer tie rod.. It was rusty.. I was dreading that.. came loose without an issue. Huh.. that wasn't bad at all.

3) Took boot off tie rod and everything looked clean and dry at the inner tie rod so I figured that would be a piece of cake. Famous last words.
That's what took me a long time and require pipe wrenches. If I had to do it again, I'd probably get one of the special tools eddystone linked to and use a single pipe wrench to hold things. We I finally won the battle, I was surprised to see all the thread were clean . I was expecting to see corrosion but everything was clean. I don't know why it was on so tight. Maybe there was some lock tight. I don't remember at this point.

BTW. there is also this style of tool. https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-46800-Mast ... r=8-5&th=1

You can usually rent that kind of kit (for free) at auto parts stores. I have no experience with that style of tool .

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Post by woodycaldercloggs »

Thanks for your response.
I found this video from FCP for tie rods and this guy doesn't hold the rack at all when doing it. (makes it look way too easy)

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amblerman wrote: 16 Apr 2020, 21:04
woodycaldercloggs wrote: 16 Apr 2020, 13:41 Once again - many thanks for your response.
One other question. Does it normally need a lot of effort to loosen the inner tie rod - I have read some others methods of doing this job and they don't seem to bother holding the steering rack at all.

I have only done this job once so my sample size is 1... ie not statistically significant.

When I did the job I encountered this:
1) getting the outer tie rod out of wheel hub.. easy.
2) Then I attacked the jam nut so I could remove outer tie rod.. It was rusty.. I was dreading that.. came loose without an issue. Huh.. that wasn't bad at all.

3) Took boot off tie rod and everything looked clean and dry at the inner tie rod so I figured that would be a piece of cake. Famous last words.
That's what took me a long time and require pipe wrenches. If I had to do it again, I'd probably get one of the special tools eddystone linked to and use a single pipe wrench to hold things. We I finally won the battle, I was surprised to see all the thread were clean . I was expecting to see corrosion but everything was clean. I don't know why it was on so tight. Maybe there was some lock tight. I don't remember at this point.

BTW. there is also this style of tool. https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-46800-Mast ... r=8-5&th=1

You can usually rent that kind of kit (for free) at auto parts stores. I have no experience with that style of tool .
Jazzer in western PA has the inner tie rod tool, maybe reach out to s/he if needed again?

I might spring for that tool if I get any more Volvo’s in my club and contemplate inner TR
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woodycaldercloggs wrote: 17 Apr 2020, 04:32 Thanks for your response.
I found this video from FCP for tie rods and this guy doesn't hold the rack at all when doing it. (makes it look way too easy)
I love FCP vidoes because they are so well filmed. Clear shots, well lit, etc.

However, they NEVER run into any issues. :-)
I don't think I've ever watched one where they said "you know what? we battled with that bolt for an hour. let's show you what we had to do to get it off." But as I said, their videos are very clear and helpful for understanding the over all process. I've used their, 1-Autos, and Robert's videos a lot.

I actually laughed when I saw he had nothing but channel lock style pliers in his hands for the inner tie rods. No way that would have worked on my car. Maybe my arm strength is just lacking in the ugga-duggas department. :)

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I spent 2-3 hours removing 4 bolts for the front motor mount on my V70. If I were up on a lift and could get my tools and shoulder on it, 15 minutes tops. But, that’s why shops have lifts and why they have to charge $125 an hour to make money
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abscate wrote: 17 Apr 2020, 07:49 I spent 2-3 hours removing 4 bolts for the front motor mount on my V70. If I were up on a lift and could get my tools and shoulder on it, 15 minutes tops. But, that’s why shops have lifts and why they have to charge $125 an hour to make money
Yeah. working on cars in a driveway gives you an appreciation for what it takes to do he job quickly and efficiently.. And as you said, why it costs real money to have the job done by someone else.

I think the longest I battled with a bolt was the crank bolt of a toyota sienna when I did the timing belt on that. Actually an easy job aside from that massive crank bolt. And if I had a real lift, I would have had plenty of room for a nice cheater bar and that bolt would have come out in a min. But not jacked up 10 inches.

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