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Re: Water pump keep or replace?

Post by darrylrobert »

i recently changed my waterpump because i have no records from previous owner on my vehicle. The previous owner said he changed the timing belt but didnt mention the pump, he also used alot of aftermarket parts and i noticed the pump was genuine volvo. My opinion is the volvo/aisin pumps are very good quality and if the spin without noise they are good, the gasket would be more of a concern than the pump.
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I think June is safely away.

Run that old oem until you squeeze the last penny of life out of it, then get a Scot and a Brit in a bidding war for the carcass
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abscate wrote: 23 Oct 2020, 15:02 I think June is safely away.

Run that old oem until you squeeze the last penny of life out of it, then get a Scot and a Brit in a bidding war for the carcass
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I still say dump the pump :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: June
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Busted!
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SuperHerman wrote: 20 Oct 2020, 15:40Drain coolant and examine - if coolant drains with no sediment at the end and is clean then replace the coolant and leave the water pump.
We have virtually no ability to do any real work on the car so this whole process would be performed by a dealer. They're not exactly going to sit around and let me come in and examine fluids, so any decisions on what to keep or replace has to be figured out ahead of time.
abscate wrote: 20 Oct 2020, 18:01You also have to be honest with yourself. Are you the kind who will put up your hood every weekend to look for things that aren’t tight or will you drive it like an appliance?
I try to pay attention to things and keep track of new noises and vibrations and such, but again, we have no way to get under the car or do any major service or repair. Popping the hood and trying to jiggle things is about the limit of what can be done without bringing it in.


Since the pump brand seems to be a crucial point, what are people's experiences with dealers pushing aftermarket parts? I know some places never seem to want to wait to special-order the real stuff and some love to charge full price but then use cheap parts anyway. I'm worried about having to fight them or triple-check what we're actually getting.

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Post by abscate »

Tell your dealer you want the Volvo pump. It will say Volvo on it. It actually costs very close to the AISIN because the Volvo part number comes with the bolts and gasket
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My legal experience, although some what limited to agreements I have dealt with, requires franchise dealerships to use OEM parts only. I have not dealt with Volvo, but other makes. The books are heavily audited and carefully policed. There are warranty and liability issues involved.

The dealership can measure the quality of the coolant, and as far as noise is concerned you can hear what is normal and not.

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SuperHerman wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 19:09 My legal experience, although some what limited to agreements I have dealt with, requires franchise dealerships to use OEM parts only. I have not dealt with Volvo, but other makes. The books are heavily audited and carefully policed. There are warranty and liability issues involved.

The dealership can measure the quality of the coolant, and as far as noise is concerned you can hear what is normal and not.
This is correct. The Volvo dealer cannot use anything but Genuine Volvo replacement parts. My dealer has a belt change kit and if requested a pump kit. The pump kit includes new pump, thermostat and housing with new coolant sensor. I opted for both kits on both services my car has required. After all it's only a few hundred dollars more for the pump kit... Really its up to you. If 50K from now you catch the pump failing then you are looking at all that labor when replacing it while the mechanic is there may save you later. Of course if it fails and you don't catch it before engine damage it's going to cost you much more or replacement of the car. I'm curious what you end up doing. June
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Post by volvolugnut »

It all comes down to paying now (good stuff) for the long term or getting by using cheap stuff and you may have to pay more later. This is the basic choice every vehicle owner makes. Just get by for now or plan for long term ownership.
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Post by abscate »

The AISIN pump seems to come with a date code on it. The Volvo pump is harder to figure out.

See pictures , once I find and attach
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