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2004 XC90 T6 Intermittent Stalling Mystery. Dealership Stumped.

A mid-size luxury crossover SUV, the Volvo XC90 made its debut in 2002 at the Detroit Motor Show. Recognized for its safety, practicality, and comfort, the XC90 is a popular vehicle around the world. The XC90 proved to be very popular, and very good for Volvo's sales numbers, since its introduction in model year 2003 (North America). P2 platform.
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2004 XC90 T6 Intermittent Stalling Mystery. Dealership Stumped.

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Quick edit for anyone who sees this and has the same kind of problem. The issue turned out to be the Air Cleaner Intake Hose, just like others have reported. There was a big gaping hole that was sucking in way too much air. How the dealership missed something like this is a complete mystery to me unless they thought they had a sucker with the previous owner. Image

Strap in, guys, New user here and this might be a long one. I hope this post is okay, and I hate to be the guy who signs up just to ask a question, but my hopes are that someone here can not resist a mystery and might have that one answer that I am missing.

About a week ago I picked up a used 2004 Volvo XC90 T6 with 116k miles. Between Carfax and hard copies, I have service records going back to 2008, and by all accounts, this vehicle has been meticulously maintained. There have been some issues, but the work had always been done to fix them by the dealership, including a new radiator, water pump, thermostat, timing belt with new idlers, throttle body, Mass airflow sensor, spark plugs, fuel filters, fuel pump, brake pressure switch, and brake vacuum pump pressure switch.

Routine servicing has been kept up on, regular maintenance kept up on and so on. There was a stalling issue before I purchased it that the dealership had thought was remedied, but come to find out, they have been chasing this issue for a while now, at least since September of 2021.

The issue I am having is still intermittent stalling. Everything else seems just fine to me, and the vehicle started right back up both times with no issues and made it home. No signs of trouble before stalling out, at least not that I could detect. No check engine lights, no sputtering, it was as though the vehicle was just shut off while going down the road. The only lights I have (or messages) are for the parking sensors needing serviced, and for the Anti Skid system that is just a sensor needing replaced in the steering wheel. The only code I can pull with my scanner is an EVAP system leak (small leak) that is most likely from a worn out gas cap seal that is cracked.

The dealership's service tech has not been able to figure it out and has installed a new MAF sensor among other things with so far little luck. The problem seem less severe than it was before I purchased the vehicle, as the previous owner had issues with it stalling more often, and then running really rough before dying again. At this point, I can drive it, sometimes for a couple days without a hiccup and then seemingly at random it will just die on me, both times while at a stop or slow speeds in traffic.

While idle, my RPMs seem to hover between 600 and 400, and higher upon first starting the vehicle before they drop down. I have checked my alternator with my charging system scanner, and all indications say it is good with the correct voltage, I fully charged my battery to make sure that was not an issue as well (before testing the alternator)

One thing I found after looking around online was a guy who mentioned that his turbo intake hose near the radiator was partially melted on the underside, so I checked mine and it was pretty sticky like it might have melted a little bit. The other thing mentioned is a crack in the plastic turbo housing tubes that I can not find any damage on, not without removing them anyhow.

Below are scanned copies of the various service records if anyone wants to take a look, and possible narrow down the possibilities. The service tech at the dealership has basically given up and told me in so many words he does not know and has no idea what to do. If i can get this stalling issue resolved, this would be a fantastic vehicle.

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No insight?

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Post by MoVolvos »

OregonianGuy wrote: 19 Feb 2022, 16:52 No insight?
Spark, fuel and air. The Volvo mechanic mentions coil in link below. Also says Fuel Pressure Regulator which is built into the Fuel Pump.

EVAP is related to air leaks.

"The problem ended up being a hole in the rubber hose that is connected to the mass air sensor. After the repair the car had much better power and acceleration in addition to fixing the problem."

Volvo XC 90 Engine Stalling Problem



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"The starting issue is the fuel pressure regulator. In this model the regulator is built into the fuel pump. You may need to check the pcv vaccum with a nanometer to verify negative pressure and that your oil trap isn't clogged.

https://www.justanswer.com/volvo/3eilm- ... -2004.html

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Scotty says to check fuel pressure as with the Volvo mechanic. Volvo guy also suspects PCV so air issue again. Other methods include spraying brake fluid on hoses to see if the rpm change. Treat this as generic problem first and search Youtube videos related to diagnosing stalling.

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Does T6 engine have PEM?
2004 V70 2.5T 100K+
2005 XC90 2.5T 110K+

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Do you have keys attached to the Volvo key? If original owner had a pile of keys and dangling things hanging from the key in the ignition. The swinging of weight like a pendulum wears out the ignition switch that causes intermittent running issues as the keys swing say from repetitive brake than accelerate traffic. Try using only the key by itself. Also you are due for vacuum line replacement to the turbos though that tripped the cel on mine so preventive maintenance on these lines is advisable. Also fuse panel fails causing erratic electrical issues so check it too. It's the underside electrical board corrode and is not a expensive fix. I attached photos of the fuse panel issue which is a known problem with the 2004 model year. Hope this helps, June
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Post by abscate »

It’s really easy to kink the fuel lines in the crossover pipes when doing the fuel pump job.

User shockwave suffered this when a Volvo dealer did his XC90…see link below. Sit down before reading

Diagnose by observing fuel pressure under load and during failure. You need a fuel pressure gauge and a scanner capable of logging data.

An unmetered air leak in induction would show up by comparing fuel trims between idle and 2500 rpm

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If other suggestions don't pan out, many of them are valid, have a look at exhaust pressure and a possible clogged up Cat(s).

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If this happened in hot weather, I would suspect the main computer overheating. Some have solved that problem by directing air conditioning to the computer housing under the dash. Another cause of intermittent stalling is the ETM, but is looks like that was replaced (Throttle body). Also poor electrical contacts at the cable ends of CANbus cables. Does this vehicle have corrosion showing?
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