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5rivers
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Transmission fluid leak?

Post by 5rivers »

Greetings everyone,

While investigating the leakage of power steering fluid from the drivers side bellows, I came across this:
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Not sure what this part is called, but will some JB Weld work?
Or should the cover be replaced? And if so, how easy/difficult would it be to remove?
Looks like there is a gasket or anaerobic gasket material that will need to be replaced as well.

Appreciate your help on this!
5rivers
1998 V70 M56, silver/grey, has tranny issues, #?# owner, 330,xxx miles, a handy parts car
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Post by scot850 »

Sorry, but having difficulty orientating the picture to figure out what I am looking at. I think that is on the trans at the front and is possibly the solenoid cover. What I am not sure about is based on the color of the oil it looks like engine oil and not the reddy/brown of trans fluid depending on it's age.

If it stops running when the car has been standing, JB Weld has a couple of metal repair products that are fuel/oil resistant.

If the drip stops, clean it with brake cleaner and rub down the rust to give the sealer a good keyed surface to cling to.

40 years ago a BMW dealer cracked the fuel bowl and refused to repair it. I used a metal mending paste that was fuel resistant and it ran like that for 3 years and was still good when I changed the carb for a better one.

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Post by 5rivers »

This cover is next to the mount that is bolted to the frame and the front of the transmission.
If you imagine going towards the back of the car from this point, the transmission oil cooler hose connects to the bottom of the transmission. Initially, I thought the seal to that hose was needing replacement, but the more I looked around there, the leak was more forward. Hence, the pictures.
I might have to drain the fluid to dry out the area. The leak shown was with the car parked and off.
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1998 V70 M56, silver/grey, has tranny issues, #?# owner, 330,xxx miles, a handy parts car
1998 V70 AT, nautical blue, 2nd owner, 260,000 miles, Sold
1998 V70 AT, T5, forest green, 3rd owner, 172,300 miles, Mimas 16" rims
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Post by FireFox31 »

Is that the valve body cover? I'm not familiar with the 1998 4-speed but here's my leaking 2000 5-speed (along with some valve body reseal info). The valve body cover had a layer of oil and debris on it. I wiped it all off with rags and it has come back very slowly over years due to a slow leak. Yours showing drips is clearly a larger leak. First step is always to clean it completely, then check soon after for the first signs of leak.
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Post by wizechatmgr »

Degrease that sucker -- at the moment it could be from anywhere at any point in that car's life.

Leaking from PS bellows = new rack. That sucks!
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Have cleaned the area around the leak spot. Applied JB Weld, but fluid still leaking. Maybe I needed to let the JB Weld dry/set over a longer time. I waited about an hour before putting in new fluid.
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General area between mount to transmission and oil cooler hose
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Can sort of see where I applied JB Weld in pic above and below.
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I have drained the fluid from the transmission and was able to separate the JB Weld from the mystery cover. Not sure what to do now.
Looks like to gain better access to this cover I need to remove the mount and the oil cooler hose.

Any idea what this cover is called or a part number.
Thanks for your help!
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1998 V70 M56, silver/grey, has tranny issues, #?# owner, 330,xxx miles, a handy parts car
1998 V70 AT, nautical blue, 2nd owner, 260,000 miles, Sold
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Post by scot850 »

Is it # 36 on the attached link:

https://www.volvovancouverparts.ca/a/Vo ... 71340.html

Looks a lot bigger in the drawing, but if it is # 36 it is NLA new.

Neil.
2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
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1993 850 GLT -Sold
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Post by 5rivers »

Removed the torque mount to the bottom of the transmission to gain access to the cover with the leak. This cover houses the end of the transmission dipstick, has a few bolts on it with 10mm heads.
Used a dremel to sand the area and found the hole.
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Put some weld on it with a soldered iron. Waited a few minutes before adding fluid - the repair worked, but another hole appeared!
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Put some weld on that after cleaning the area with the dremel (sanding and then brushing).

I think the welds will help, but may apply some JBWeld just to make sure they don’t fall off!
Now to reinstall the torque mount- thank goodness for heat!
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1998 V70 M56, silver/grey, has tranny issues, #?# owner, 330,xxx miles, a handy parts car
1998 V70 AT, nautical blue, 2nd owner, 260,000 miles, Sold
1998 V70 AT, T5, forest green, 3rd owner, 172,300 miles, Mimas 16" rims
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Will be looking for another cover on my next PnP trip.
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1998 V70 M56, silver/grey, has tranny issues, #?# owner, 330,xxx miles, a handy parts car
1998 V70 AT, nautical blue, 2nd owner, 260,000 miles, Sold
1998 V70 AT, T5, forest green, 3rd owner, 172,300 miles, Mimas 16" rims
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Post by Sveedy »

Get a replacement torque mount as well. Yours isn't even worth reinstalling.
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