Login Register

Rescuing Geronimo the 2000 V70

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

Post Reply
User avatar
FireFox31
Posts: 1635
Joined: 14 August 2006
Year and Model: 2000 V70 NA auto
Location: New Hampshire
Has thanked: 158 times
Been thanked: 300 times

Re: Rescuing Geronimo the 2000 V70

Post by FireFox31 »

I found the source of the fuel smell which lingered around poor Geronimo. The excessively rusted fuel filter had a small hole in it. Good thing I had a new one ready to be installed. Of course, when I began unscrewing the bracket holding it, that put pressure on the breach causing fuel to start dripping out. And when I worked to remove the filter, a shower of fuel soaked rust fell all over me and my gas collection cup. I was so ready to do a clean job having learned the sequence from doing it on the G70. Things don't work that well on Geronimo.

The fuel filter is a little loose in the bracket. Perhaps a layer of bracket metal rusted away, opening its inner diameter. Any ideas how I could pad the gap between filter and bracket? I believe the bracket was recently discontinued (though I bought one in mid 2021).

While there, I replaced the "L and J evap hoses" as I call them. Identified their clamps for the Oetiker info list. Really need to get an Oetiker removal tool because I spend way too long wrestling them out.

Tomorrow, maybe I'll get the left wheel hub and reluctor ring replaced to finally cure the multiple ABS problems. Or just battle with the O2 sensor. I've been oiling it for days but really don't think it will come out.
Attachments
Fuel filter with hole
Fuel filter with hole
PXL_20230708_015211974.jpg (273.8 KiB) Viewed 426 times
FireFox31
Blue 2000 V70 NA manual, "the V70" - died, reborn, totaled, donated, stripped
Green 2000 V70 NA automatic, "the G70" - awaiting 2nd rehab
Black 2000 V70 NA automatic, "Geronimo" - rescued, rehabilitating
Blue 1998 V70 T5 manual, "the T5M" - awaiting rehab

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 35316
Joined: 17 February 2013
Year and Model: 99: V70s S70s,05 V70
Location: Port Jefferson Long Island NY
Has thanked: 1507 times
Been thanked: 3824 times

Post by abscate »

I hereby nominate that one for the Titanic part thread….amazing that it rusted and holed under the clamp, saving a major fuel spill

A strip of thin rubber sheet should do the trick for the padding. Trying to remember what I used

I just moved Evitas fuel filter job up the priority list

:shock: :shock: :shock:

Is it too late to bag that one and send it to me for this thread?

viewtopic.php?t=95661&hilit=Fuel+filter+autopsy
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 XC90-in-Red
Link to Maintenance record thread

User avatar
volvolugnut
Posts: 6235
Joined: 19 January 2014
Year and Model: 2001 V70
Location: Oklahoma USA
Has thanked: 928 times
Been thanked: 1002 times

Post by volvolugnut »

abscate wrote: 08 Jul 2023, 02:48 I hereby nominate that one for the Titanic part thread….amazing that it rusted and holed under the clamp, saving a major fuel spill

A strip of thin rubber sheet should do the trick for the padding. Trying to remember what I used

I just moved Evitas fuel filter job up the priority list

:shock: :shock: :shock:

Is it too late to bag that one and send it to me for this thread?

viewtopic.php?t=95661&hilit=Fuel+filter+autopsy
HA! You can't fool all of us. You are going to reuse that filter to failure!

volvolugnut
The Fleet:
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
And others.

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 35316
Joined: 17 February 2013
Year and Model: 99: V70s S70s,05 V70
Location: Port Jefferson Long Island NY
Has thanked: 1507 times
Been thanked: 3824 times

Post by abscate »

Face the hole down , JB weld a hose to it, and feed it back into the tank! Free filtered gas!
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 XC90-in-Red
Link to Maintenance record thread

User avatar
FireFox31
Posts: 1635
Joined: 14 August 2006
Year and Model: 2000 V70 NA auto
Location: New Hampshire
Has thanked: 158 times
Been thanked: 300 times

Post by FireFox31 »

I'll pull it out of the scrap metal bin for you. I spent a good amount of time draining the gas out. It would be interesting to autopsy this filter at likely 350k+ miles, 23 years, which ran the cheapest gas for many recent years. I have no way to store it so how can I get it to you? Could try the postal service if I properly disclose.

Today, I attacked Geronimo with a Mini-Ductor inductive heating device. Along with cooking the O2 sensor, I tried to heat the front wheel hub bolts to ease removal. I wrapped the entire hub face which receives the bolts and heated it for the maximum allowable run time, two minutes. The hub was pretty warm but not hot enough to dislodge rust. I heated the heads for 45 seconds each, twice, just to be safe. After all that, I was able to break free all four excessively rusty E-Torx bolts (unlike when I did the other side and one stuck bolt required hours of work to remove). I don't know if the Mini-Ductor really helped because I didn't try them before heating. We'll see how it does with the O2 sensor.
FireFox31
Blue 2000 V70 NA manual, "the V70" - died, reborn, totaled, donated, stripped
Green 2000 V70 NA automatic, "the G70" - awaiting 2nd rehab
Black 2000 V70 NA automatic, "Geronimo" - rescued, rehabilitating
Blue 1998 V70 T5 manual, "the T5M" - awaiting rehab

User avatar
foggydogg
Posts: 2948
Joined: 17 October 2009
Year and Model: '98 V70 R, 97 850 T5
Location: District Of Columbia, not one of the Several States
Has thanked: 83 times
Been thanked: 402 times

Post by foggydogg »

I have read elsewhere it's the heat/cool cycles that convinces the rust to loosen its grip, as opposed to a specific target F number. The real magic juice for me is ATF/acetone 50/50 mixed in small batches. It takes a bit of stirring to get the two to mingle, much like making vinaigrette. When it turns cloudy pink, it's ready for acid brush applique.
69 1800s, @500k Death by Rust
94 850 Turbo, T-boned, ambulance for me, crusher for it
97 855 T5, 855 R projects
98 V70R x2, Silver Junkyard rescue, Coral Red
98 V70GLT x2, parts cars
00 V70xc x2, both now dead
62 122s, gone to live in Richmond
56 445 Duett basket project
1950 Studebaker 2R10 flatbed, T9 crashbox

scot850
Posts: 14899
Joined: 5 April 2010
Year and Model: 2000 V70 R
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Has thanked: 1853 times
Been thanked: 1714 times

Post by scot850 »

That filter looks a lot like the one on the 850 I was working on. I declined to swap it in fear something would break trying to remove it! I did at least wire brush the inlet/outlet areas and PB blasted them a couple of times, but don't think the owner has had it changed yet!

Neil.
2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 35316
Joined: 17 February 2013
Year and Model: 99: V70s S70s,05 V70
Location: Port Jefferson Long Island NY
Has thanked: 1507 times
Been thanked: 3824 times

Post by abscate »

The filter is a 105k mile replacement item. Averaging driving, that’s 8 years. We probably have a lot of p80s in the 150-250 range on their second filter, when they should be on their 3rd or 4th
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 XC90-in-Red
Link to Maintenance record thread

scot850
Posts: 14899
Joined: 5 April 2010
Year and Model: 2000 V70 R
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Has thanked: 1853 times
Been thanked: 1714 times

Post by scot850 »

My fuel filter in the 'R' is probably 10-11 years old, but the car has travelled about 10,000 miles max in that time! :D

Is it due replacement.......? :lol:

Neil.
2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 35316
Joined: 17 February 2013
Year and Model: 99: V70s S70s,05 V70
Location: Port Jefferson Long Island NY
Has thanked: 1507 times
Been thanked: 3824 times

Post by abscate »

I inspected Evita as today, not too bad
Attachments
IMG_5348.jpeg
IMG_5348.jpeg (453.63 KiB) Viewed 320 times
IMG_5347.jpeg
IMG_5347.jpeg (531.25 KiB) Viewed 320 times
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 XC90-in-Red
Link to Maintenance record thread

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post