Greetings everyone,
I ventured again to a NYS inspection station today and was told that because of a CEL, code 410, the car would not pass inspection unless the code was eliminated.
So, my question is, is the car old enough to warrant a smog exemption in NYS? If so, where can I locate such info?
I've looked at a few of the pages on the DMV website, and the car has to be "more than 25 years old" to gain an exemption from smog testing.
The VIN on my car is YV1LW5371W2457473. I can't seem to find a link that decodes what each number/letter represents. The car is a 1998 which would make it 25 years old, but its the "more than" that is the catch...so how to find the cars' production date is a question.
The CEL code 410 refers to the SAS but there is no air pump on the car! The hoses to/from the air pump are taped shut. Did I need to install an air pump?
Appreciate your help on this!!
Many thanks!
Production date of '98 V70 and New York State NY smog exemptions
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5rivers
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Production date of '98 V70 and New York State NY smog exemptions
5rivers
1998 V70 M56, silver/grey, has tranny issues, #?# owner, 330,xxx miles, a handy parts car
1998 V70 AT, nautical blue, 2nd owner, 260,000 miles, Sold
1998 V70 AT, T5, forest green, 3rd owner, 172,300 miles, Mimas 16" rims
1998 V70 M56, silver/grey, has tranny issues, #?# owner, 330,xxx miles, a handy parts car
1998 V70 AT, nautical blue, 2nd owner, 260,000 miles, Sold
1998 V70 AT, T5, forest green, 3rd owner, 172,300 miles, Mimas 16" rims
Do you have a sticker inside drivers door? Manufactured date there. Good luck. Have you tried clearing the code and driving enough just to run it through the cycle and trying again before it comes back on? Fine line there but worth a try.
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scot850
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If the air pump has been removed, there should be a modification to the wiring needed to stop the CEL coming on. I think Abscate used to have the resistors or diodes (can't recall) in bulk for that reason. Maybe PM him?
Neil.
Neil.
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2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
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- foggydogg
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The sticker on the drivers side door - as mentioned - will show the actual build month and year. Whether that makes a dent on the Inspection folks is another issue.5rivers wrote: ↑28 Jul 2023, 12:06 Greetings everyone,
I ventured again to a NYS inspection station today and was told that because of a CEL, code 410, the car would not pass inspection unless the code was eliminated.
So, my question is, is the car old enough to warrant a smog exemption in NYS? If so, where can I locate such info?
I've looked at a few of the pages on the DMV website, and the car has to be "more than 25 years old" to gain an exemption from smog testing.
The VIN on my car is YV1LW5371W2457473. I can't seem to find a link that decodes what each number/letter represents. The car is a 1998 which would make it 25 years old, but its the "more than" that is the catch...so how to find the cars' production date is a question.
The CEL code 410 refers to the SAS but there is no air pump on the car! The hoses to/from the air pump are taped shut. Did I need to install an air pump?
Appreciate your help on this!!
Check with Dr. Abscate, he may be able to illuminate.
The VIN only gives the year, which may not help if the actual regulation is worded "...more than..."
Here's a pretty good rundown of what each character means,
https://www.autozone.com/vin-decoder
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94 850 Turbo, T-boned, ambulance for me, crusher for it
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Your 1998 Volvo is smog emissions inspection exempt in the Empire State.
It’s a rolling 25 calendar year exemption per the DMV website….
It’s a rolling 25 calendar year exemption per the DMV website….
So 2023-24 = 1999 and on, leaving your 1998 exempt.On-Board Diagnostics Generation II (OBDII) Inspection.
Gasoline-powered vehicles with a model year within the range of the calendar year minus 24 and the calendar year minus 2 and most 1997 or newer diesel-powered vehicles that have a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) less than 8,501 pounds are subject to the OBDII emissions inspection. This test examines the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL), also known as the "check engine" light, for operation/illumination, and verifies the test results of the vehicle's "on-board emissions diagnostic" system.
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If they get pissy about it, you can contact Volvo USA and ask for a date of manufacture from them.
Neil.
Neil.
2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold
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Model year 98 should be exempt as of 2023. And your Volvo was probably built in 1997, so definitely over 25 years old. P80s should be pretty well emissions exempt everywhere by 2024 except for CARB states.
Follow this guide for removing the SAS pump code. A cheap diode and soldering iron is all you need. Really super easy. I should've done it a long time ago.
Follow this guide for removing the SAS pump code. A cheap diode and soldering iron is all you need. Really super easy. I should've done it a long time ago.
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'98 V70 T5M - 324,000mi - my new project
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'99 S70 "AWD" - 220,000+mi - gone
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This issue gets complex quickly. You are emissions exempt for inspection in NY but it is a federal violation to remove any smog equipment post 1966
I don’t think NYS enforces this and you should be able to get a equipment only inspection
I don’t think NYS enforces this and you should be able to get a equipment only inspection
Empty Nester
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Hi,
You NY guys are lucky NJ is different.
You NY guys are lucky NJ is different.
I’ve been driving a Volvo long before anyone ever paid me to drive one.
That's probably because I've been driving one since 2015 and nobody has offered to pay me yet.
1998 v70, non turbo, FWD, base model, on the road from April 2nd, 2015 to July 26, 2023.
That's probably because I've been driving one since 2015 and nobody has offered to pay me yet.
1998 v70, non turbo, FWD, base model, on the road from April 2nd, 2015 to July 26, 2023.
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That’s why we charge you $23 to come in.
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