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1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

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Re: 1998 S70

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jsrnsis wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 08:52
Wskbnd536 wrote: 16 Aug 2023, 17:32

So I feel like you will judge me on this lol but I used Standard Motor Products. I got both the cap and the rotor from them. I found them on Amazon and it had 5 stars and a few of the comments were in reference to 98 v70 and 98 s70. So I thought if it worked for them, I don't see why it wouldn't work for me. I also thought get low to Mid grade parts to see if that's the issue and if I have to replace them in a year at least I'm not dishing out $100 for hi end parts that might still not fix the issue.
I bought the standard motor products distributor on Rockauto because it showed it was a Bosch in the picture, it comes in a "Standard Motor Products" box, but it says Bosch on it. It was $45 vs the $80+ for a Bosch elsewhere.

There are two versions listed under that brand though on Rockauto, the more expensive one is the one that claims to be a Bosch.
abscate wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 01:47
A NA at 120k miles has about 2/3 of her life in front of her, especially a 1998
Would you say a 120k mile 1998 has more or less life than a 1999 or 1997 all other things being equal?

1% year, 99% how it has been taken care of …

1999 2000 are special years which had a lot of changes from the 92-98 years. These are most;y documented in the “ Bastards” thread
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abscate wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 09:12 There can be latent codes which won’t trigger the light, but no codes probably means no misfires

Mechanics often suck at diagnosis. Nothing ‘ sounds like” a single component failure, in a given sub system there are 5-6 points of failure. The “ gurus” don’t have superpower skills, they just understand you start at the top of the tree and work down.

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You don’t diagnose a fuel pump or relay by an engine stuttering. You go to the fuel rail and measure the 40 psi Volvo says needs to be there. You can buy a tester or got onAutozone and borrow theirs, or rent and return.
So I checked the rail. I was told to put it on the third switch on the ignition but not turn it on and press the valve there and it was a very minimal squirt. That led me to believe it was the fuel pump relay. It started up great when I did the distributor cap and rotor and relay. Ran it around the neighborhood a few times no issues 2 days in a row. I left it parked Sunday through Wednesday and 3 days later it's the same thing again.

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A fuel injection system needs a tightly regulated pressure to run correctly, not qualitative analysis. You can spend days and dollars with backyard advice or get on board the path of nailing down root cause.

Not trying to harsh, but you aren’t getting useful advice.

These cars kick the fuel pump on when the ignition is armed, then turn it off quickly until the engine catches and runs. If the pump bleed down is quick, you can misdiagnose a working pump
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abscate wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 10:26 A fuel injection system needs a tightly regulated pressure to run correctly, not qualitative analysis. You can spend days and dollars with backyard advice or get on board the path of nailing down root cause.

Not trying to harsh, but you aren’t getting useful advice.

These cars kick the fuel pump on when the ignition is armed, then turn it off quickly until the engine catches and runs. If the pump bleed down is quick, you can misdiagnose a working pump
I completely get were you're coming from and I don't think you're being harsh. I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction. I'm starting to see that the people around me, the so called "mechanics" around me don't have my best interests at heart or are as ignorant as I am in this matter and have false information on how to diagnose, repair a car. I truly want to get to the root of the issue.

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I would go looking for that nice fat blue white spark , also pull you snorkel and see how oily the throttle body is, too.

Clean with brake cleaner moistened rags. No solvent loose in the throttle body
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abscate wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 19:25 I would go looking for that nice fat blue white spark , also pull you snorkel and see how oily the throttle body is, too.

Clean with brake cleaner moistened rags. No solvent loose in the throttle body
What is the snorkel? Is the throttle body next to the fuel rail?

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Air comes out of the air cleaner box, through the MAF, and then into a corrugated plastic tube that runs down to the throttle body. That corrugated tube is the snorkel.

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Robert spinner has the best collection of videos on DIY procedures for p80 Volvos ( 1992-2000 chassis)

https://www.youtube.com/user/RSpi007
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scot850 wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 22:58 Air comes out of the air cleaner box, through the MAF, and then into a corrugated plastic tube that runs down to the throttle body. That corrugated tube is the snorkel.

Neil.
I didn't look into that in detail but it seemed clean when I took of the distributor cap and rotor. I pretty much removed the whole air filter housing with the maf to get to the cap and it seemed pretty clean

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abscate wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:15 Robert spinner has the best collection of videos on DIY procedures for p80 Volvos ( 1992-2000 chassis)

https://www.youtube.com/user/RSpi007
I've seen some of his videos. He truly is helpful and I'm gonna do the abs module based on his advice since we also have the abs and Trac light on. I also notice it says you're in Albany, NY If I can't get the car going, would you mind coming to check it. I'll pay for gas and if we have to put you up and labor. I'm about 2 and half hrs away from Albany. I'm in Wolcott, CT.

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