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Rich@BHX
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Post by Rich@BHX »

I mistakenly posted a link which is for the electronics. One may find useful a compendium of 1800 pages on free energy by Patrick J Kelly at
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/PJKbook.html
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/PJKbook.pdf

There is a number of designs for Hydrogen-On-Demand in cars in Chapter 10. However, there is little indication so far that it is possible to fuel the engine only with HHO (requires a lot of hydrogen and complete chage of ignition timing).

I am thinking of having my engine converted to LPG (to be able to switch between gasolin and liquified petroleum gas). A guy who is in this business, told me that they install a separate ECU and gas injectors for LPG. Once this is in place, it would be easier to mix HHO gas through the same reductor and injectors. Given the price of LPG is twice lower than gasoline, and MPG is just slightly lower, HHO would probably make this setup more cost effective.

nisan17
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Post by nisan17 »

Good to hear about Rich's adventures. Hopfully one has the knowledge to share with him and enlighten us all.
Although my HHO Cell/Tank(http://hhotek.com/home.html) sits in a box in my office since the middle of August. I can't even afford time to install this. But, I'm still researching ways to improve on improvements!
I just found an article on Acetone as a fuel additive that can give gains from 15-35% plus in fuel MPG. Now, I'm still tweaking this for my 87 740 non turbo. The last couple of years on a couple of my best days of driving I've gotten 28 mpg, but my average is 24-26 mpg HWY mind you. This past weekend I traveled to a couple of cities, spent some time driving in the stop and go traffic and stopping at quite a few residences (serving civil process). It was somewhat half and half, city and hwy driving. The end of one leg was 89 miles,then I filled up and figured it to be 29.66MPG. Read this article http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2 ... 9_Acetone/
I've got more time than money to tweak this. I'll post my results as they improve or diminish!
Kevin

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Post by nisan17 »

Check out this other alternative fuel source...pretty funny.
But then Ford was laughed at to.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2 ... heme=light
Kevin

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Post by Rich@BHX »

Be it coal or wood, what combustible gasses after burning that fuel?
Surely, there are some carbon hydrates if the temperature is right, but powering a truck from it... :-)

nisan17
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Post by nisan17 »

Have had my HHO system in since October and done some tweaking. My results were from 18.4 to 23.6...averages of four fill ups in this February to last February four fill ups. No EFIE device or MAF/MAP either.

I'm also using all Amsoil products in my vehicles.
Kevin

MadeInJapan
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Post by MadeInJapan »

Kevin,
Pretty nice- 5 MPG increase.
Which model car and year?
Also, would love to see some pictures of your set-up and how much this rig cost you to put together.
Inquiring minds want to know.
'98 S70 T5 Emrld Grn Met/Beige Tons of Upgrades Mobil-1
'04 V70 2.5T Red/Taupe Some Upgrades Mobil-1
'07 S40 T5 AWD 6 speed manual! Silver/Black Stage1 Heico & Elevate
'07 S60 2.5T Blue/Taupe- my kid's Volvo

nisan17
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Please view the photos from the last to the first as this is the way the program uploaded them. http://hhotek.com/index.html
is where I purchased my kit from. They have improved kits now.

The cell kit was $270 with approximately $60 in additional hardware. All fittings are sealed with silicone as well as the electrical connections. The improved kits have sturdier cells as well as more complete hardware. My Electrolyte ratio is one gallon of water to 2.75 tsp of Potassium Hydroxide, KOH.
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New kit.  But , had to buy extras to complete the install with extra safety measures.
New kit. But , had to buy extras to complete the install with extra safety measures.
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Empty cell in position in 86 740 trunk
Empty cell in position in 86 740 trunk
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Bubbler/spark arrester 1/2 filled with RV Antifreeze
Bubbler/spark arrester 1/2 filled with RV Antifreeze
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30 amp Thermo fuse take off
30 amp Thermo fuse take off
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Overall install, hoses from cabin, to bubbler to air tube.
Overall install, hoses from cabin, to bubbler to air tube.
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2" N.O. Vacuum Switch from brake booster
2" N.O. Vacuum Switch from brake booster
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30 amp relay and the vacuum Switch
30 amp relay and the vacuum Switch
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Dash power switch.  Got lucky and it was perfect size.
Dash power switch. Got lucky and it was perfect size.
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Cell energized. Approximately 1/2-3/4 liter per minute @ less than 10 amps.
Cell energized. Approximately 1/2-3/4 liter per minute @ less than 10 amps.
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Morning after use of cell. Typical by product is iron corrosion from stainless steel plates.
Morning after use of cell. Typical by product is iron corrosion from stainless steel plates.
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Kevin

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Post by MadeInJapan »

Thanks for sharing!
How much of this do you think can be built on your own rather than buy a kit that's almost $300 ?
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nisan17
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Post by nisan17 »

I'd say under $50 for a relatively good cell and hardware. Not a glass jar. My brother built just the a cell for approximately $20.

There is an online place that you can buy a finished polymer cell for $75.(http://www.hydroreactors.com/page11.html) Just buy the installation hardware and you're finished. They also have the full kits. I'm going to furnish my 89 Volvo with this. Of all the money I spent on additional install hardware, I have enough left for at least another install.
Kevin

IVIUSTANG
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Post by IVIUSTANG »

Hey guys,

I just bought the following: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0283846400

The buy it now price was $149 US dollars. I offered him $108 and he accepted it, it looks to be very good and he is a power seller who has been on Ebay for 8+ years with over 99% positive feedback. It is a very complete kit. It should arrive within a week or so. I will definitely post pics and results of the install in my 1998 2.3l S70 T5. He claims output from 1-4 LPM at about 10-12 amps per LPM. The quality of the parts also appears to be quite good comparatively. No 02 sensor electronics modifier but it includes and O2 extender which should help.

Regards,

- Jesse
1998 S70 T5 SE 290,000 KM sideswiped total loss(Sweet ride!)
2007 S60 2.5T loaded 63,000 KM SOLD!
2006 XC70 350,000 KM, 2" BadSwede lift kit, steel skidplate, Hilton Stage 1 tune, big burly tires :D
2008 S80 V8 245,000 KM SOLD!
2015 V60 T5 Premier+ 98,000KM

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