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2000 V70 XC is a poly upper mount really a good idea?

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

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Re: 2000 V70 XC is a poly upper mount really a good idea?

Post by scot850 »

Careful with those mounts. There is another at the LH rear corner of the trans on an AWD, and the upper mount may not be the correct one for a 2000 V70 XC. That is not the mount on my 2000 V70R. The crankshaft mount is also not the one shown.

http://www.ipdusa.com/products/7392/112 ... 70-v70-awd

Crankshaft mount

http://www.ipdusa.com/products/7257/112 ... 70-v70-awd

LH rear mount at trans

http://www.ipdusa.com/products/8078/115 ... izer-mount

Top torque mount

Finally the lower torque mount is not correct for a P80 AWD according to the FCP listing.

Neil.
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Post by E Showell »

So I'm back to replacing the upper torque rod bushing on my '98 V70. I last did the bushing a few years back, probably close in time to my engine replacement -- which would have been 3 years and 60,000 miles ago. Has anybody had one of the original rubber style mounts last more than 60K miles? It feels like every time I look under the hood that bushing is on its way out. I know that isn't the case, but they sure do seem to wear out quickly. Any thoughts on that?
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'99 V70 NA FWD Auto, dark blue (sold)
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'06 V70 R AWD Auto, Sonic Blue Metallic (sold)
'04 XC70 Ruby Red Metallic (sold)
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'05 V70 T5 M (totalled)
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Post by cn90 »

The factory Upper Mount Lemforder is about 60K. Basically it cracks from the fore and aft motion of the engine torquing back and forth.
A ghetto fix is to fill the voids (the fore and aft voids) with silicone caulk.
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Post by E Showell »

I'll keep the improvised improvement in mind. Thanks.
'98 V70 NA FWD 5 spd, silver sand metallic (sold)
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'04 XC70 Ruby Red Metallic (sold)
'95 855 auto (sold)
'86 245 manual (sold)
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Post by erikv11 »

They wear out quickly. I think at 60k you were very fortunate, on my cars the OEM mount lasts more like 40k. Maybe because I don't drive so many miles per year.
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'07 XC70, black, 205k
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Post by E Showell »

Erik -- Either I'm very lucky, or not very observant. Could be it wore out long ago and I just never noticed!
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Post by dosbricks »

Those Lemforders are sure hard to squeeze in there. I have a couple of thick oak blocks--one of which is milled on one side to draw it through just enough to center it--using a long 1/2" bolt. I'm wondering if it would be worth it to put the mount in the freezer overnight and if it would stay cold long enough to make installing it a bit easier. Anybody try this?
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Post by erikv11 »

Yes Dos, that freezer trick has been recommended before, many people swear by it ... great minds think alike!

https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... hp?t=43089
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'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
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Post by cn90 »

The freezer trick helps, but even with oil and by the time I have the bearing adapter in place to go, the Lemforder bushing is probably at room temp anyway.
It is still a big pain to press it in, and I only got it 80% of the way in the the bearing adapter just stops!

Next time, I will sand the bushing O.D. a tiny bit so it slides in easier. They over-design the thing too tight, no need to!
I have a belt sander so I can remove a bit of stuff on the Outer Diameter.
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