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loveMy850 wrote: 06 Dec 2021, 08:48 Ok...I got this bad feeling that's what's going on, there's still hope isn't there???? I'm going to try with the plugs out. Now you guys do realize I'm a woman right ( : I've done so much wrenching in my life,my Grandpal gave me that gift. Some things I have to have that physical strength, but whatever it is I that's an underlined I get it done! No offense.i love wrenching and my 850 is my baby.
Still hope if you want to try to fix your car.

Gender does not matter. Only basic skills, access to tools, willing to learn, and willing to accept help. If you have been wrenching all your life you must have some of the first two. Since you are asking questions on MVS, it appears you are willing on the last two.

Remove the plugs and try to turn with a long wrench on the crankshaft nut. Turn only clockwise or you may jump the timing belt.
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loveMy850 wrote: 06 Dec 2021, 08:48 Now you guys do realize I'm a woman right ( : I've done so much wrenching in my life,my Grandpal gave me that gift. Some things I have to have that physical strength, but whatever it is I that's an underlined I get it done! No offense.i love wrenching and my 850 is my baby.
Gender does not matter. When it come to cars, my sister can run circles around a lot of guys. Here is a story about her in Germany when she was 18.

As far as physical strength ... don't try to brute force it. Out smart it using the six simple machines to get mechanical advantage, lever, pulley, inclined plane, screw, wedge, and wheel and axle.
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erikv11 wrote: 06 Dec 2021, 11:35 Yeah as I mentioned, could swap the head too but that's getting overly complicated IMO.
Would be more work now but she could rebuild the head in the process and have a solid engine for many years. In the long run it would be less work because she did what she could when the engine was out this time. Preventive measures.
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Post by abscate »

It’s really rare to seize these engines on an overheat. You lose compression in the head before that happens. Maybe we have some MVS people near you, drop us a zip code?

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When a engine does seize due to overheating it is because the oil breaks down around the pistons. Pull the spark plugs out and dump a tablespoon of oil in each cylinder and let it sit. If your lucky the damage is slight and the oil will seep around the pistons enough to get it un-seized. Then cross your fingers and hope the damage is is not much.

This is a case where thin Pennzoil has advantages. Use a light light weight oil that can get past the tiny breeches.
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Awesome, everyone here is totally Awesome.. Your sister Rocks,and yeah I've been wrenching for a long time. I got that physical strength thing going, cheater bars and the like,thanks for the help ladies and gents.
I agree all is not lost,that's what I'm checking this afternoon the compression if it's not raining. My biggest problem is the testing stuff,ya know like go just buy a new one.haha. Im htting the junk yard this weekend,and will wheel my husky box along with my battery. My zip is 92311. Here's a pic of my 850
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I'm going to do a Tbs.of oil and then the crank,and yeah Luckily the leprechaun kicks Murphy to the curb.Thank you.
On the rear of my 850 you may see that looks like a sanded patch....it isn't, its from the good old high desert sun 😎

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Post by abscate »

If you cant move it with the plugs out, don’t crank it. You will just bust more stuff

Sometimes you can figure out which piston is stuck by putting poo sticks into each one an looking for the slight motion while putting pressure on the crank pulley.

Always clockwise on the crank pulley

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abscate wrote: 08 Dec 2021, 07:22

Sometimes you can figure out which piston is stuck by putting poo sticks into each one an looking for the slight motion while putting pressure on the crank pulley.
What is a poo stick? I hope it is not what comes to mind.

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You have to go to a good University to play pooh sticks, for Pooh was a bear of little ECU.

For our American friends, just use chopsticks from the Olive Garden.
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