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Really thinking about sell my 2000 V70r. Doesnt Run

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Really thinking about sell my 2000 V70r. Doesnt Run

Post by Jaydiesel »

Hey Everyone. I am really on the fence about selling my 2000 V70R. Silver ext. Black Int. around 164k. I am located in Jacksonville, FL. It will not start. I have been working on it little by little. Replaced the fuel pump with a Dw200. Then the fuel line going to the motor is rusted out. So i did a temp line to the engine. Very little pressure on that. and still not starting. I haven't had really any time in the past year to work on the car. I really don't know what to do with the car right now. I love the wagon and know its becoming harder and harder to find a P80 wagon R in half way good condition these days. I like to hear other peoples input on what I should do. Keep or Sell it. I have to ask Volvo lovers and not my wife. I am open to ideas too. Like if someone lives close and would want to come over when temps get cooler and help out I am ok with that. Also I live right off I-95 in Jacksonville, so if anyone is traveling North or South thru Florida and has a type of skill that they can help out with the car and want to stop by for food, drinks and volvo talk we can plan something out. Thanks Everyone. Can't wait to hear what you all think.

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Post by abscate »

You have to have 50 psi up at the fuel rail or ME7 cars wont run, period.

Where is your rusted out fuel line? You need to drop the back axle to fix that right, a big job, but lots of documentation here on getting it right first time.

If old, weak-wristed me can drop a AWD tank in a driveway, anyone can. Im so old, by the time I yell at the clouds, they have already moved on.
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Abscates' your man for advice on this. He found a good way to drop the rear axle using threaded rods that allowed access to the Main pump on the RHS. Genius! Then there are a couple of recent posts on the challenges of adapting and fitting an aftermarket pump.

My R with a replacement OE pump about 6 years ago was generating 55-60 psi. Ad the good Dr. says, you need much higher pressure in the 99- cars for the engine to run. Abscate also came up with solutions for replacing sections of NLA fuel lines.

It really comes down to how much you want to prevent the car being sent to a junkyard. That is unless someone like bmdubya wants another major challenge and converting it to FWD which does away with the AWD parts NLA's at the rear.

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If you can turn the wrenches, there are people here to give directions. I encourage you to repair the car, but I am to far away to help.
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I have no problem turning wrenches and working on the car. Its just i haven't really had any time in the past year. I did replace the fuel pump my self doing the cut out method thru the floor pan in the back seat. Its problem a issues with the new fuel pump. Where the other issue is at the fuel line. Its the connection that is right by the fuel pump location (rubber line to metal green pipe running forward). I have the car up on blocks on the side of my house too work on it. I had to put it up on last year when the hurricane came in, we started to get the storm surge and since the car was not running only place for the car to go was up on blocks about 2 ft in the air. Saved the car and my mind. lol. I have looked over and read all the great write-ups plus pics on here about doing the fuel pump and the tank lines.

On the side of my house is my Volvo car work area. I also have a 850 T-5R 135k sedan that I owned for about 9 years now and I go back and forth working that ( pulling out the engine wiring harness to send off to get it totally redone. Which I haven't finish pulling it out after last working on it 3 months ago).


Just to much life stuff going on. Trying to run my construction company, starting up a charity called Horsepower for Hearts, and now chasing clients around thru the courts to pay up for work done. Fun times here.

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That doesn't leave a lot of time for sure. Facebook has several Volvo sites as well as naturally MVS here too for advertising. Facebook has model specific like P80 and the likes which if you decide to sell may give you additional eyes on your sale.

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Post by abscate »

I’ve always needed about 40 hours of my time to get a P80 back on the road as a daily driver. Covid helped me work longer and perfect some skills but that’s the time budget to allow in your life in one of these. That doesn’t include parts chasing time.
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Post by foggydogg »

Jaydiesel wrote: 23 Jul 2023, 19:22 ... at the fuel line. Its the connection that is right by the fuel pump location (rubber line to metal green pipe running forward)....
If you can get a good view of the actual leak that could help with diagnosis here, and inform your decision. Dropping the subframe will be a commitment, not just time, but the car won't be a roller until the end in case you need to let it down and move it.
You could get lucky and be able to only partially lower the whole mess without disconnecting a lot of stuff to replace a hose or 2, but...
I seem to recall Robert doing just that, but could'nt find the vid on a short search.
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Post by scot850 »

Abscate did that with his S70 AWD. He generated a method using threaded rod to allow partial dropping to get access to the pimp and the top of the tank. Also you may be able to access through the floor access panel in the load area behind the RH rear seat. with a boroscope type camera. I bought a cheap one and it has already paid for itself. You can get cables that attach to a cell phone too that can do this.

Realistically, I suggest dropping the tank and subframe as it gives way more room an access to assess the whole area and mess of pipes to see if there is any other pending issues.

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2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
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1998 V70 XC - Sold
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Hey everyone. I am finally back to catch up with everyone about life and volvos. I will do the easy one to catch up everyone on. Which is my Volvos. Nothing has happened to any of them. Haven't touched them since I last posted months ago. They are still not working.
So now the long answer about life. Since my last post about a week after the post. Life thru my wife a huge curve ball with her health. So my wife 6 years ago had a heart transplant. Then at the end of July of this year she went into heart rejection. Her body's immune system started to attack the heart, in a full force attack. She moved into the hospital so the heart transplant team could try to do a plasma replacement therapy (it has a long name which I can't spell out right now.). After a few weeks of being in the hospital and trying plasma replacement therapy. She got worse. 6 years of heart transplant meds and aggressive meds in the hospital. Her kidneys started to fail and the doctors put her on dialysis. Then well she was finally on week 7 of being in the hospital. She went into cardiac arrest in the very ealry hours on a Saturday morning. I received that call from the hospital at 530am. Took 13 mins of CPR to get her heart going again. But they got her going and put her in a medical induced coma to get her stable enough to figure out what was going on. Moved her to ICU permanently. After a full day of tests by the doctors and waiting for lab results. The doctors had some answers for me. Her heart had harden so much in the weeks, since she was admitted in the hospital to her cardiac arrest. That a normal person would experience that hardening in 20 years. Her body was fighting and fighting fast. Doctors gave her 30 days to live. Only two ways to leave the hospital. Out the back door or do another heart transplant and kidney transplant. My wife is 47 years old. Already received one heart transplant. A second one, plus kidney transplant with 30 days to live, got real quickly. I had to tighten up alot of things in life to get ready for the worst and keep trying to move forward with day to day things. At Night for a few hours I would spend with her each day. Doctors were keeping her alive with meds and dialysis. Her heart was getting very weak each day. Her mind was start to have issues being under so much meds and in the ICU with really no hope of going home.
I asked the doctors to please don't let her know, how much time she had left. I felt that would break her. And I needed her to keep fighting and have hope. Her Heart transplant doctor which we became good friends with because he was her doctor since first transplant treated her like a sister. And promise us he will get her home. Well after a few weeks in ICU. Her doctor did receive a offer for heart and kidney transplant out of the same donor. We accepted the offer and a few hours later the nurses were getting ready to say are good lucks to her before the nurses took her back to operate on her. I left the room for 10 mins to help my in-laws get to her room before transplant. By the time I got back to the her room. The doctors came in and told her the donor's heart was to big for her. Like 20% bigger. So the doctors called off the transplant.(This is called a dry run). Wife was crying so hard..everyone was. But in the transplant world it happens and you jut be happy you had that offer.
So the next two days were rough for the wife emotionally. But after that her doctors were getting a few offers but her doctor's felt they were not really the matches they needed for her. But 5 days later she got a offer and the doctors believe it was a great donor..We accepted the offer and me knowing that she was running quickly out of days. Well surgery was planned for very early the next day..So I went home after saying goodbye for the night to her. Get home fed the pets, took a shower and Just laid in bed and looked at the cieling for hours before I closed my eyes. Just thinking about life, the wife, people that understand and have the selfishness to become donors. Becoming a organ donor in my eyes makes you a true life super hero.
So I arrived at the hospital for her surgery very early the next morning. I believe I only slept for 3 hours. Which become the norm for when for the past months she was in the hospital already.. But walking in the hospital that morning I knew my life was going in either two different ways but have to keep going forward. I was prep.
After seeing my wife and saying I will see her later plus the I love you's. Nurses took her back for surgery. Surgery lasted over 13 hours. (Side note. When she received her first heart transplant. My brother was in the waiting room with me in the corner sitting back in chairs and the rest of my wife's family there too. My brother found me a 1995 Black 850 T-5R sedan. That I end up emailing with the owner that day and put a deposit on it during my wife transplant. Then talked to my buddy to go look at the car the next morning to finalize the deal. My wife thought my brother is a bad influence on me sometimes..lol so she told my brother's wife to make sure I don't buy any more Volvos, when she would be in surgery. But didn't tell my brother to not buy any cars 🤪.)

So transplant for both heart and kidney was successful!
I got to see my wife back in ICU. She was stable but good. It was some touch and goes for the first 24 hours but she was able to try to say something 24 hours after surgery. Her heart was doing really well after surgery. Kidneys take sometime to start, could be a few weeks to a few months for the kidneys to start up. But about 4 days after surgery and with the meds starting to build up in her body and in her brain..she started to not know what was going on. The meds started to cloud her brain. So the doctors started dialysis asap to filter her system out and worked on kick starting the kidney. This lasted days and while she in there..Her parents would visit but she didn't know who they were some days and me. (But she did ask me if I had a wife because she saw my wedding ring. And I told her I had a beautiful wife.) Then one day with while visiting, my father in law, has a mini stroke right there in front of her and my mother in law. It's just a mess. So doctors handled him and move him into another room and got him checked into the hospital. So my nights, were then visiting my father in law and then my wife. After about another 10 days of this my father in law gets to go home and it's back to just hanging out with my wife. She was getting some long term memory back slowly. I celebrated our wedding anniversary in there quietly with her..I dressed up and brought up a card, set it up on the table next to her bed. But the whole time she was sleeping and getting some test done to look for any brain damage. So the next day after test results. The doctors figure out they had to start reducing some meds to figure out which one is causing issues with her brain cloudiness the most..after about 3 days the doctors figure which medication it was and changed it totally to a different one. Then she start to get better and better..started to remember everything up to surgery but nothing afterwards. She did so well she got moved out of ICU about 2 weeks after that..Then 10 days in the heart transplant normal care floor..after that she got moved out to a physical rehabilitation hospital. And I actually got her home right before Thanksgiving. She is doing well and the kidney has started to work with her other kidneys too. (Hint when I say other kidneys..Most hospitals now don't remove kidneys during transplant. They just added a kidney..or two. To many issues if they did remove kidneys. Plus kidneys have a chance to come back and start working a little bit again)
She still has a long road to recover. But she is home, happy and alive! She lost so much muscle and has to learn to walk again. Since she was in that hospital bed for so long. She uses a wheelchair now. So everyone knows..normally when you have a transplant you are basically walking out of the hospital like 5 days after transplant..Since she had some many problems before transplant this time, this is very rare for anyone to have these after transplant.

So this is my reason for not being able to work on my Volvos.
But with my days busy with work and my nights playing caregiver to my wife. Just need to figure out a way to work on at least the my wagon..I need to stop paying a wheelchair van to drive her around to appointments and get were I can put her and the wheelchair in the wagon to drive her to her doctors appointments. Her and I both own trucks as daily drivers and she can't get up in them..The wagon was great when I had it working before taking her to appointments years ago.
So if anyone is up to help me get it working again..I am in Jacksonville FL. Not to far off of I-95.

Also sorry for the grammar issues and some lack of details. I just get thinking to fast about this subject.
With everything that is going on, I was thinking about starting a group to help people understand and educate about heart issues with a automotive lingo, in the future. I am more then happy to answer any questions someone has about what wrote in the open. But if anyone has any personal experience or questions they like to chat about in private. I am here to help out.

So I am Jaydiesel on here and on Swedespeed.(I haven't logged in to Swedespeed in a while..So if some of the guys over on Swedespeed remember me, like Jared with the Yellow T-5R wagon..This is one of the reason I have not been around.)
Thank you everyone if you made it this far in the post.
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