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Post by xnRS »

Hi, I have a question

Which plug wires should i use ? Many people say that Bosch wires gave misfire, and telling to buy Bougecords or Volvo Original or IPD only But sadly, I don't have any of those in my country, and importing wires from USA will cost $$$ and I have to choose from:
Bosch 0986357232
NGK 6076 (tbh NGK wires were bad on other cars while I used them)
BREMI 600123
Janmor VL17

Also I'm planning to tune up my car, so maybe there are some options for COP on M4.4?
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Post by RickHaleParker »

Bougicord is the original equipment supplier. Bougicord 6468 and Volvo 9135700 are the same parts. The only difference is the Logo.

Genuine Bosch is good stuff.
You will always hear bad things about good brand names. Counterfeiters target the high end brands. So watch where you source your parts.

People that blame the parts not their diagnostics.
People that expect too much from something.
Then there are the just plan idiots that don't know enough to keep their mouths shut.
Of course the Shills that want to mislead you.

There are or was conversion kits to convert a 4.4 to COP.
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1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.

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On the plug wires. I have a young friend and worked on her car a few weeks ago and noticed that it was fitted with NGK plug wires. Car has had them for some time and ran fine.

Like Rick says, some of the times the issue is parts quality and especially copy parts claiming to be a well known brand. People like the Bougicord brand as it is the OE and has had no reported issues that I am aware of in either OEM or OE versions. However, it comes down to what is available in some parts of the world. You don't have to buy parts from US. Try Skandix in Germany for example.

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Post by xnRS »

scot850 wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 09:20 Try Skandix in Germany for example.
Thanks for answer, already thought about SKANDIX, but which brand wires they use ? Or they are making wires themselves?
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RickHaleParker wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 01:40 Genuine Bosch is good stuff.
You will always hear bad things about good brand names. Counterfeiters target the high end brands. So watch where you source your parts.
Thanks for answer, I think I'll use Bosch then, also are Bremi ignition parts for 850 are any good ?
RickHaleParker wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 01:40 There are or was conversion kits to convert a 4.4 to COP.
I think I saw someone mentioned that M4.4 for S90 have COP control, maybe there is a way to somehow enable it on S70 M4.4...
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They look like they have their wires made for them. They have 2 versions. The more expensive version is claimed to be OEM quality. The cheaper has no mention of this. Their products are usually good and they are also good at standing behind their stuff. Maybe worth while e-mailing them?

Volvo pricing over here looks crazy. Not sure if there is anyone who still carries the OEM parts. This company in UK claims to:

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/ign ... %5B%5D=496

Neil.
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2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
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xnRS wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 13:05 I think I saw someone mentioned that M4.4 for S90 have COP control, maybe there is a way to somehow enable it on S70 M4.4...
My 1997 S90 had 4.4 COP.

Vast Tuning had a complete PnP COP conversion kit at one time. How it looks the DIY ECU mod kit is the only thing they have.

If you wanted to do a 4.4 COP conversion today. Vast tuning could probably supply a ECU mod kit and a wiring diagram so you could make your own harness.
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1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.

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scot850 wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 13:25 They look like they have their wires made for them. They have 2 versions. The more expensive version is claimed to be OEM quality. The cheaper has no mention of this. Their products are usually good and they are also good at standing behind their stuff. Maybe worth while e-mailing them?

Volvo pricing over here looks crazy. Not sure if there is anyone who still carries the OEM parts. This company in UK claims to:

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/ign ... %5B%5D=496

Neil.
Correct part# for 20v cars is Bougicord 6468.
Those blue ones are for 10v cars and have part # 6469.
Bougicord or autodoc catalogue is wrong!

I bought the 6468 from Autodoc last year.
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Post by scot850 »

Thanks misha. Appreciate your knowledge as always. The Autodoc website otherwise looks reasonable on pricing.

Neil.
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2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
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1998 V70 XC - Sold
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Post by BEJinFbk »

A few years back, I was in a pinch and
picked up some Belden wires from NAPA.
I had no idea that Belden was in the plug
wire game, but they run smooth as glass
and I haven’t looked back. 👍
'98 V70 R - Well Equipped for Life Up North... ;)

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