2002 Volvo s60

rold · Post by **rold** » 02 Feb 2010, 16:10

I have been having an engine light coming on since a recent Timing belt change. I have owned the vehicle a month and do not know the history.
Over all the car is nice and well kept

Problem, Engine surges at idle when cold and sometime rps will surge right after interstate travel

I asked the shop who replaced the Timing belt to make sure it was installed correctly.

Shop advised without a doubt the timing belt was installed correctly. shop advised he wanted to replace the Cam Shaft solenoid and this may fix the problem.

Took vehicle to a local volov dealership who advised assuming the timing belt was put on correctly his assessment is that there is a tinge of oil sludge present and he wanted to put a new Gasket on the CVVT(is this the camshaft solenoid). Dealership wanted over 400.00.

Shop advised the engine light is on but not throwing a code. he advised it was interment-ant

Is this a possible fix? Can I do it myself.

Your comments are welcomed.

Post by **vegasjetskier** » 02 Feb 2010, 16:14

Wow, that's a lot of money for a CVVT gasket. You should be able to do it yourself if you have minimal mechanical skills. I'll see if I can dig up some directions.

rold · Post by **rold** » 02 Feb 2010, 16:26

Quote was for the new solenoid as well. He advised it was the same labor as just replacing the gasket

Post by **vegasjetskier** » 02 Feb 2010, 16:47

You should be able to save a lot doing it yourself. Check with the sponsors in the banner at the top of this page for discounts on the gasket and solenoid.

I think your solenoid is the same as mine. If so, these directions should work for you.

Go to this post and read about half way through to see how to get to the solenoid (you don't need to change the spark plugs, but if you want to do that anyway, this is a good time). If you don't have a turbo, you won't have to remove all the tubes on the top of the engine. Once you get the covers off the top of the engine you can access the solenoid. https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... 11&t=17431

See the following pic. The solenoid is in the blue rectangle. Disconnect the electrical connector (green ellipse). Remove the four bolts (red arrows), and lift the solenoid off the engine. You might get some oil spillage, so keep a rag handy. Take off the gasket. Reverse to install new parts.

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Post by **jblackburn** » 02 Feb 2010, 23:06

Honestly, I wouldn't think the CVVT solenoid would cause the surging in idle speed or anything that you describe. The only thing that controls is the Variable valve timing that opens up when the engine revs get up (~4000 for our Accord, I'm not sure what a Volvo's operates at).

Honestly, THAT sounds like an ETM or dirty throttle body issue to me, and the dealer is taking the lazy way out.

The ETM should still be under warranty, but you can try to give it and the throttle body a good cleaning and see if matters improve. Sometimes this helps, sometimes it doesn't.

This is for an S80, but it's the same basic procedure.

https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/2008/1 ... vo-s80-t6/

The ETM is the big metal thing coming off the air pipe there (this is from an S70, but the engine on your S60 is almost identical)

rbodor3 · Post by **rbodor3** » 03 Feb 2010, 10:56

Let me guess - the TB job was done at a NON-VOLVO specialist indy shop?

There's a lot of issues with the TB that if you observe can make it simple and easy, but if you're not aware of them it can throw a code on your car because the timing will be a little off. The code thrown should be able to be read from a regular code reader - go to AutoZone when you get the CEL and have them check it.

Basically the camshafts have to be rotated to TDC but often the TDC marking wears out or won't be correct over extended periods of time (have seen it happen). They need to rotate the crank & cam to line up correctly which is NOT shown in Mitchells (which is most likely what your indy shop is using) but is shown in VADIS (see attachment). give them this sheet and ask them if they did this I have a good feeling they did not.

If you were not having a CEL and bad idle beforehand it is highly doubtful your ETM is the issue, IMHO.

As far as the oil sludge you need to be more specific of the location. if you can take a picture of it and show it. Could be as simple as a bad oil cap oring which is very common, especially if you have a turbocharged S60. Could be something like needed to replace the cam seals, doubtful it is the CVVT gasket though.

rold · Post by **rold** » 03 Feb 2010, 18:49

Wow thanks for all the ideas. This a new vehicle for me so I do not know the prior history.

I am going to do the cvvt and new gasket my self. I will clear the code and see if it fixes the problem.

If this does not - I think I will look toward the guy who changed the timing belt. He advised that tech and owner both looked at the timing belt installation and agreed it was correct.

I will let you guys know when the cvvt come in and I can replace. I will post the results soon. Thank you

2002 Volvo s60 107k

Post by **JDS60R** » 03 Feb 2010, 19:27

Here are the Volvo directions. This set includes the seals etc.

rbodor3 · Post by **rbodor3** » 03 Feb 2010, 21:34

rold wrote:Wow thanks for all the ideas. This a new vehicle for me so I do not know the prior history.

I am going to do the cvvt and new gasket my self. I will clear the code and see if it fixes the problem.

If this does not - I think I will look toward the guy who changed the timing belt. He advised that tech and owner both looked at the timing belt installation and agreed it was correct.

I will let you guys know when the cvvt come in and I can replace. I will post the results soon. Thank you

2002 Volvo s60 107k

you're saying they looked at the directions I posted and said that's what they did? If so then they did not set the cams correctly. I'm 100% positive the TB change was not done correctly.