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I have gathered the tools, and the parts were shipped. I am clear on the task, but need help with the sequence.
This is my cooling and heating maintenance project.

- radiator, hoses, and tansfluid connector line seals and clamps replaced a month ago
- thermostat works fine.

now my to-dos are...
- remove stripped screws from thermostat housing
- replace thermostat
- drain coolant
- flush with distilled water
- take down timing belt
- replace water pump
- put timing belt back on
- switch to zerex g05 + distilled water mix
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Have you done the PCV system replacement?
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Make sure to use the engine block drain to get as much distilled water & coolant out of the car as possible before removing the water pump. It will make much less of a mess. Then proceed with the timing belt and water pump shenanigans. After you get it all back together, I recommend doing 2 flushes with distilled water before putting coolant back in the engine.
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rspi wrote:Have you done the PCV system replacement?
If I live pass the cooling and heating tasks.
I was planning on tune-up since I am just above 22k on plugs and wires. Should PCV be the next, then tune-up?
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What kind of health is the PCV system in?

Pull out the dipstick on an idling, warm engine - and look for smoke puffing out of the opening. If you see smoke, move it up the list.
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jblackburn wrote:Make sure to use the engine block drain to get as much distilled water & coolant out of the car as possible before removing the water pump. It will make much less of a mess. Then proceed with the timing belt and water pump shenanigans. After you get it all back together, I recommend doing 2 flushes with distilled water before putting coolant back in the engine.
I noticed the copper plug just corner from the tb area. Would it be wait till the last drip, or run the engine while the plug is off?
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Yeah, that's it. Just drain it out til it mostly stops flowing - no need to wait for it to drip everything out, but don't run the engine without coolant!!!
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jblackburn wrote:What kind of health is the PCV system in?

Pull out the dipstick on an idling, warm engine - and look for smoke puffing out of the opening. If you see smoke, move it up the list.
A visual assessment, ok. If it does, are you suggesting prior to cooling and heating task?
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I'd make the leaking water pump my first priority. Belts don't like stuff on them.

This is what you're looking for with the PCV
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jblackburn wrote:Then proceed with the timing belt and water pump shenanigans.
For clarity I ask...
There are two type of belts I would remove.
First, the auxiliary belt using the special IPD tool with 3/4" male socket by turning the tensioner clockwise, it is located outside the tb cover. And inserting a pin to hold it in loose position, while slipping the belt off of the crank and other round objects.

The second is the timing belt which is inside the tb cover, the tensioner for this belt is held in place with two bolts. Would the two bolts 10mm, and 12mm remove this tensioner, then only the t-belt would come off? For putting this tensioner back there is a pin that would be push back in, and held in by inserting a nail like object, which will be pulled out after the timing belt is correctly installed.

Are the two belt scenarios correct?
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