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Lug Removal Using Torque Wrench

Post by Eddystone » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:19 pm

(I'm aware that tools should be used for their proper purpose, etc, etc, etc, etc)

General Poll:

I'm thinking of giving my son a cheap Harbor Freight 1/2" torques wrench and appropriate socket to keep in his trunk in case he has a flat. We all know the lug removal tool supplied by the manufacturer is useless if a repair shop has had your wheel off and impact wrenched them back on. The click-type torque wrench is long enough to allow him to remove the lugs and accurate enough to get him close to the proper torque when he reinstalls them.

I wouldn't use a high quality torque wrench for lug removal, but for rare use when a spare needs to be installed on the road, I'm thinking a click-type torque wrench that hits a mechanical limit if pressed beyond the click will bear up to the torque and the release of the lug when it breaks free with little damage to the torque wrench or its calibration. It won't be used for anything other than this.

Using it in this manner once or twice in a blue moon isn't any big deal, is it?

Yes, I could get him a breaker bar, as well, but that's just one more thing to bounce around in the trunk.

Will I go to hell for using a $12 (with coupon) torque wrench in this manner?



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Re: Lug Removal Using Torque Wrench

Post by RickHaleParker » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:47 pm

Extra force on band or click style torque wrench can throw them out of calibration.

Bind a breaker bar to the torque wrench case (two sided Velcro straps with one end super glued to the back of the case) and it won't bounce around in the trunk. Also the breaker bar will give you a place to store the socket your need also without it bouncing around and getting lost.


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Re: Lug Removal Using Torque Wrench

Post by j-dawg » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:11 pm

To question the premise a bit - and this is my second time doing so in my last two posts on this forum, so forgive me for being a know-it-all - I wouldn't even bother with a torque wrench. Every spare tire kit in every car has a simple dumb lug wrench rather than anything that could measure a particular torque. Good'n'snug on the breaker bar will get you back home and to the tire shop without any worries.


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Re: Lug Removal Using Torque Wrench

Post by PS78 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:25 pm

I'd vote for getting a good size 4 way lug wrench. Force of your body to loosen stubborn lugs, and the quick spins to get them out and back in quickly. Less time someone's knelt down, vulnerable, on the shoulder of a road the better. The other thing is if Tire places or shops are hammering your lugs back on, I wouldn't use them. I went through that before having stripped threads and broken studs. there's places that don't do that. Even Walmart of all places finishes the tightening properly with a torque wrench.
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Re: Lug Removal Using Torque Wrench

Post by RickHaleParker » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:26 pm

"Good'n'snug on the breaker bar will get you back home and to the tire shop without any worries."

Does not give a Dad, peace of mind. This is to make sure his son makes it home in one piece.


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Re: Lug Removal Using Torque Wrench

Post by abscate » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:50 pm

The show stopper for a flat is usually getting the nuts/bolts off, not getting reasonable torque

HF sells a decent extendable lug nut wrench , we keep one in every car.

You can make sure your petite drivers can get them off by torquing to 60 ft lbs with lube.

My ladies range from a petit 5.00 feet who needs a breaker bar and foot to break free lug nuts to a 6 foot/180 pounder who can twist them off with her fingers.


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Re: Lug Removal Using Torque Wrench

Post by oragex » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:53 pm

Eddystone wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:19 pm

Will I go to hell for using a $12 (with coupon) torque wrench in this manner?

Maybe (symbolically speaking). I don't trust when I read 'cheap' before a torque wrench. These tools are all but reliable when poorly made. By not reliable I mean, you will have a lug at 100 ft. lbs. and the next one at 75 ft. lbs. or worse. Not good when it comes to wheel lugs which need to have all very similar torque numbers (think lugs that loosen up while driving).

It is a good idea to get a torque wrench for the wheel lugs. Keep in mind that because of corrosion on the wheel lug seat, the torque for these lugs may be hard to set uniformly on all 5 lugs. This adds to the imprecision of a torque wrench.

A used quality torque wrench is not much and it's a good investment for safety.

Don't forget to check the lugs after a short drive in the city after some strong braking (strongly advise not to take the highway before this check). And also never add any lubricant on the lugs or at the lug seat on the wheel. Even better clean the lugs off with some wire brush and some acetone before putting them back.


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Re: Lug Removal Using Torque Wrench

Post by Eddystone » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:06 pm

j-dawg wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:11 pm
To question the premise a bit - and this is my second time doing so in my last two posts on this forum, so forgive me for being a know-it-all - I wouldn't even bother with a torque wrench. Every spare tire kit in every car has a simple dumb lug wrench rather than anything that could measure a particular torque. Good'n'snug on the breaker bar will get you back home and to the tire shop without any worries.
The problem is mainly having something that will get the lug loose after someone has torqued it to 200 lb-ft with an impact gun. The factory lug wrench in my V70 is useless for that. A throw-away $12 torque wrench would get these off and then back on in a reasonable tight and equally tight manner.



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Re: Lug Removal Using Torque Wrench

Post by Eddystone » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:10 pm

RickHaleParker wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:47 pm
Extra force on band or click style torque wrench can throw them out of calibration.

Bind a breaker bar to the torque wrench case (two sided Velcro straps with one end super glued to the back of the case) and it won't bounce around in the trunk. Also the breaker bar will give you a place to store the socket your need also without it bouncing around and getting lost.
It's a $12 torque wrench being used for nothing but the occasional wheel removal and nothing else. How far off could the calibration be versus my own usual "feels about right" method?



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Re: Lug Removal Using Torque Wrench

Post by cn90 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:12 pm

- If you are worried about the shop over-torquing the lugs, then loose them all and retorque them properly now. This makes removal much easier. I always use a dab of grease on the lugs for the last 25 years.

- Here is my trick: carry a breaker bar and appropriate socket, this is much better than factory tool.

- During tightening: hand-tight until snug using only 1 finger for all 5 lugs.

- Then torque it another 45 degrees, which should bring to you 100Nm range, which is the torque for most cars. Or do your own experiment with the proper torque wrench and find out how many degrees you have to turn (from snug position) to achieve the proper torque. Then write a note and leave it in the trunk spare time compartment saying "snug, then another 45 degrees etc.". This way when you replace the tire in the middle of nowhere, you have a reminder note ready.


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