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Looking to upgrade - opinions please

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Re: Looking to upgrade - opinions please

Post by Rattnalle »

The turbos are also fine and at least on - 01 models they barely ever break down as long as you don't use crude oil. The 2.5T is much nicer to drive than the 2.4T and the NA.

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The reality of buying an old Volvo is that most owners just don't maintain them. I expect to get the car to a good running condition allow $1500-2000 to get the car back to good reliable condition. For me the #1 issue is maintenance records. Even if it doesn't have a full history the last 4-5 years is the most important is chances are any bigger issue have been covered. If the records are available then scrutinize them for 'repair declined' or deferred. Usually have big $$$$ repairs and the reason for selling. Owners become instantly forgettable on these issues and seldom declare them as they won't sell them otherwise.

I thin a couple of the guys have mentioned it, but unless you absolutely need an AWD avoid them like the plague. AWD system improved around 2004 but too many issues and complexity if stuff goes wrong. P80 AWD's now have many obsolete parts for the AWD system.

I'd look at a non-turbo base model if you wan a good simple run around. Don't worry about the ETM 'issue'. A Xemodex repair through FCP Euro (you ship direct) costs less than $500 and there is a fairly good chance it has been replaced already. Condition and maintenance is more important than age.

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rspi wrote: 15 Feb 2018, 09:55
ir637113 wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 19:31 Probably the better question would be which cars to avoid. Like, I've never heard anything good about 960s so I'm going to try to avoid those.

Might actually get another 850 if I can find a price I can live with
LOL Have you ever heard anything bad about a 960? Best car I've ever owned, all things considering.
I've heard a lot about the 960 the last time I went looking, and found some good stuff, but a LOT of negative reviews of it. It could be a great car, but I'm still kinda biased towards the 850/V70 engine ;)

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ir637113 wrote: 19 Feb 2018, 11:29
rspi wrote: 15 Feb 2018, 09:55
ir637113 wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 19:31 Probably the better question would be which cars to avoid. Like, I've never heard anything good about 960s so I'm going to try to avoid those.

Might actually get another 850 if I can find a price I can live with
LOL Have you ever heard anything bad about a 960? Best car I've ever owned, all things considering.
I've heard a lot about the 960 the last time I went looking, and found some good stuff, but a LOT of negative reviews of it. It could be a great car, but I'm still kinda biased towards the 850/V70 engine ;)
Same engine, +1 cylinder.
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rspi wrote: 20 Feb 2018, 09:28
ir637113 wrote: 19 Feb 2018, 11:29
rspi wrote: 15 Feb 2018, 09:55

LOL Have you ever heard anything bad about a 960? Best car I've ever owned, all things considering.
I've heard a lot about the 960 the last time I went looking, and found some good stuff, but a LOT of negative reviews of it. It could be a great car, but I'm still kinda biased towards the 850/V70 engine ;)
Same engine, +1 cylinder.
That's a fair way to at it. I've taken a look at them and couldn't find my way through as easily. I'm way too comfortable with the inside of an 850.

Either way, it's kind of a moot point anymore lol. Got some financial news that means I need to make my 850 with busted cam seals and RMS last at least another year

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Post by scot850 »

Well that sucks. I wish you the best of luck!

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Post by June »

ir637113 wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 19:31 Probably the better question would be which cars to avoid. Like, I've never heard anything good about 960s so I'm going to try to avoid those.

Might actually get another 850 if I can find a price I can live with
Nothing wrong with 960. 960 and S90 had the 2.9 straight six, excellent transmission, and standard with heavy anti slip independent rear axle giving the car 4 wheel independent suspension. You are thinking of the 700 and 200 series with the not so good PRV V6. June
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Post by abscate »

ir637113 wrote: 20 Feb 2018, 11:39
rspi wrote: 20 Feb 2018, 09:28
ir637113 wrote: 19 Feb 2018, 11:29

I've heard a lot about the 960 the last time I went looking, and found some good stuff, but a LOT of negative reviews of it. It could be a great car, but I'm still kinda biased towards the 850/V70 engine ;)
Same engine, +1 cylinder.
That's a fair way to at it. I've taken a look at them and couldn't find my way through as easily. I'm way too comfortable with the inside of an 850.

Either way, it's kind of a moot point anymore lol. Got some financial news that means I need to make my 850 with busted cam seals and RMS last at least another year
I also bought that stock. Im still convinced purple bell bottom jeans and Bastad Clogs are coming back, so Im sitting on it.

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