IPD sale XeMODeX - Experts in Volvo Electronics
Did you know? 🤔
Logged in users can get email notification of topic replies Log in or register (free).
Amazon Link Buy your stuff using this and it helps MVS!

Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's extremely popular car line -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, 850 R, 850 T5-R, 850 T5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

woodycaldercloggs
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue May 26, 2015 4:44 am
Year and Model: v70 1998
Location: France
Has thanked: 21 times
Been thanked: 0
woodycaldercloggs

Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Post by woodycaldercloggs » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:13 am

I live in a remote part of France and have a 1998 Volvo v70 which needs inner tie rods replaced.
My nearest wheel alignment center is a 50 mile drive away so I feel that I need to get my alignment pretty close to OK for that drive.
I noticed that different manufacturers of inner tie rods make them different lengths (there is as much as 50 mm difference).

Is there any easy way without dismantling the tie rod assembly of telling what manufacturer my current inner tie rod is or what its length is so that I can order the same - as this would make the re-assembly easier ?

and

I have bought new Lemforder outer tie rods - so is it better to use Lemforder inner tie rods also ?



SvenGWK
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:55 pm
Year and Model: 1998 C70
Location: Berlin
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 1 time
Germany
SvenGWK

Re: Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Post by SvenGWK » Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:40 am

Hello, I have exactly the same problem. (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=84985)
I suspect that the 98 V70 has the same "chaos" as the C70 of this year...
The C70 uses different steering racks, SMI and TRW.
First you have to find out which steering rack is installed. If it is still the original, you can read the type on the plate in the engine bay. (https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/ident ... plate.html).

I spoke to a dealer today about the length of the tie rods. He couldn't explain it either. In his opinion, the different data could be related to different measurements.
For example, one manufacturer specifies the length including the axial joint, the other without. That could explain the big differences.
The smaller differences in the mm range can actually exist, but are unproblematic, since the thread is screwed into the tie rod end. There is enough space to more or less compensate for a few mm.
Which tie rod ends you buy you have to decide for yourself. Remember that right and left are different (unlike the tie rods).
The material should not be too cheap. A Febi Bilstein tie rod only lasted 9000 km for me. ;-)
You usually don't do anything wrong with Lemfoerder. That's good quality.
These users thanked the author SvenGWK for the post:
woodycaldercloggs



User avatar
misha
Posts: 3981
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:09 pm
Year and Model: '97 850 2.5 20v
Location: Serbia
Has thanked: 34 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Serbia
misha

Re: Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Post by misha » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:16 pm

Lemforder,Delphi,Febi,Meyle HD,Trw,Moog(Federal Mogul) are at the top of the range about suspension parts.
These users thanked the author misha for the post:
woodycaldercloggs


'97 850 2.5 20v /fully equipped/ Motronic 4.4 / polar white wagon
'91 Citroen XM 2.0 SI /fully equipped/mandarine red metallic
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS

User avatar
FLXC90
Posts: 918
Joined: Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:31 pm
Year and Model: 98 V70 T5
Location: Florida Panhandle
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 12 times
United States of America
FLXC90

Re: Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Post by FLXC90 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:44 pm

See the data plate information if your car has all those numbers. Both my 98 S70 and 98 V70 were early enough in the production year that they don't have that last digit. Cars with the shorter number are TRW rack from the factory. The character was added to differentiate once SMI was added as a supplier. But again, this is only if the original rack is still installed (Most likely)
These users thanked the author FLXC90 for the post:
woodycaldercloggs


Current Volvos:
1998 V70 T5, 112k sat 5 years, still in mechanical coma (finally at the top of the pile )
2004 XC90 T6 AWD: 186k, 60 on transaxle ( traded in )
1998 POS70 N/A: DD/training aid, 236k but really about 240k, I think...ABS module( passed on to son who sold it)

woodycaldercloggs
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue May 26, 2015 4:44 am
Year and Model: v70 1998
Location: France
Has thanked: 21 times
Been thanked: 0
woodycaldercloggs

Re: Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Post by woodycaldercloggs » Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:48 pm

Hi,
sounds like you have been through the same process.
I know mine is an SMI rack but the inner tie rods for SMI are shown as different lengths also.

Another question - did you use a special tool to remove and insert the inner tie rod ?
If you did - can you recommend one ? :?
and what torque did you use to tighten it ?



User avatar
jreed
Posts: 1077
Joined: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:43 am
Year and Model: '97 Volvo 855 GLT
Location: RTP, North Carolina
Has thanked: 35 times
Been thanked: 20 times
United States of America
jreed

Re: Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Post by jreed » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:14 am

I have a '97 850, so my experience may not apply to your '98 V70, but I had good luck using Volvo OEM inner tie rods. I wrote up a short DIY guide here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=58194#top
These users thanked the author jreed for the post:
woodycaldercloggs


1997 855 GLT (Light Pressure Turbo) still going strong. Previous: 1986 240 GL rusted out in '06, 1985 Saab 900T rusted out in '95, 1975 Saab 99 rusted out in '95, 1973 Saab 99 rusted out in '94

User avatar
FLXC90
Posts: 918
Joined: Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:31 pm
Year and Model: 98 V70 T5
Location: Florida Panhandle
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 12 times
United States of America
FLXC90

Re: Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Post by FLXC90 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:28 am

I just used a pipe wrench to remove the old, I didn't really torque the new one, just tightened according to how big they are. Mine are all TRW so I haven't had to play the sizing game. Good luck!
These users thanked the author FLXC90 for the post:
woodycaldercloggs


Current Volvos:
1998 V70 T5, 112k sat 5 years, still in mechanical coma (finally at the top of the pile )
2004 XC90 T6 AWD: 186k, 60 on transaxle ( traded in )
1998 POS70 N/A: DD/training aid, 236k but really about 240k, I think...ABS module( passed on to son who sold it)

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 18467
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:54 pm
Year and Model: 99T5 ,99S70,2005V70
Location: NYC, ALBANY NY
Has thanked: 212 times
Been thanked: 692 times
Trinidad & Tobago
abscate

Re: Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Post by abscate » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:46 am

You can align them to 0 toe in with curtain rod or dowel , then drive at 70-80kph to your alignment shop ok.
These users thanked the author abscate for the post:
woodycaldercloggs


Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 BMW

j-dawg
Posts: 1069
Joined: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:56 am
Year and Model: 1999 V70 T5
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 17 times
United States of America
j-dawg

Re: Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Post by j-dawg » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:25 am

viewtopic.php?t=70349
viewtopic.php?t=28454

The first guide, which I wrote, will get you good enough to drive to the alignment shop. The second will probably get you a good alignment.
These users thanked the author j-dawg for the post:
woodycaldercloggs


1999 V70 T5 5-SPD | ~270k mi | burns more oil than gasoline

j-dawg
Posts: 1069
Joined: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:56 am
Year and Model: 1999 V70 T5
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 17 times
United States of America
j-dawg

Re: Inner Tie Rod Manufacturer

Post by j-dawg » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:31 am

Also, for what it's worth, a few weeks after that post I got an actual alignment done and found that I wasn't really all that close to spec. But it was close enough to not destroy my tires.
These users thanked the author j-dawg for the post:
woodycaldercloggs


1999 V70 T5 5-SPD | ~270k mi | burns more oil than gasoline

Post Reply