Kallekula's 2001 Wagon Relapse Topic is solved

Post by **kallekula** » 05 Feb 2019, 00:28

Just bought a new wagon! 106K and no compression on any cylinder

Post by **abscate** » 05 Feb 2019, 04:07

That’s all right. It’s more important that they are close than exactly at spec , I’ve read

Probably top end from a timing belt failure?

Post by **kallekula** » 05 Feb 2019, 08:29

abscate wrote: ↑05 Feb 2019, 04:07 That’s all right. It’s more important that they are close than exactly at spec , I’ve read

Probably top end from a timing belt failure?

Yeah I guess. Timing belt has wear on outside, really not sure what’s going on. Belt maybe jumped a few teeth? I’m not gonna speculate very much, just pull the head off and see what’s going on.

Post by **Rattnalle** » 05 Feb 2019, 08:39

Those tyres look way too small as well.

Post by **kallekula** » 05 Feb 2019, 08:53

Rattnalle wrote: ↑05 Feb 2019, 08:39 Those tyres look way too small as well.

It’s an XC AWD, think tire size is right.

Post by **BlackBart** » 05 Feb 2019, 10:30

ZERO compression......that's interesting. I'd like to hear more about what's happened here. An old non-interference engine with a broken timing gear or similar will do that because the valve train isn't moving. But there might be one valve shut somewhere and you'd get a number.

Post by **SuperHerman** » 05 Feb 2019, 11:12

Sounds like you did a compression test. Did you also check the timing?

It is possible, but doubtful, it is out of time. Still worth the work to double check your marks. I suppose someone may have had a bad pulley or tensioner - just replaced that and screwed it up. Checking the timing would eliminate this scenario.

Most likely, as speculated, the timing moved/belt broke and bent some valves. Someone may have put a used belt on to see if they got lucky or readjusted the belt/pulleys, learned they did not and sold it to your careful hands at a next to nothing price. What did you pay?

Post by **kallekula** » 05 Feb 2019, 11:25

SuperHerman wrote: ↑05 Feb 2019, 11:12 Sounds like you did a compression test. Did you also check the timing?

It is possible, but doubtful, it is out of time. Still worth the work to double check your marks. I suppose someone may have had a bad pulley or tensioner - just replaced that and screwed it up. Checking the timing would eliminate this scenario.

Most likely, as speculated, the timing moved/belt broke and bent some valves. Someone may have put a used belt on to see if they got lucky or readjusted the belt/pulleys, learned they did not and sold it to your careful hands at a next to nothing price. What did you pay?

Yeah I was thinking checking the timing before I tear it apart. Guy who sold it seemed honest, worked as a diesel mechanic and did the head 10k miles ago. Paid $500

Post by **kallekula** » 05 Feb 2019, 14:00

Daylight pics:
Oh, and yes it’s raining in California too

Post by **Rattnalle** » 05 Feb 2019, 14:06

kallekula wrote: ↑05 Feb 2019, 08:53
Rattnalle wrote: ↑05 Feb 2019, 08:39 Those tyres look way too small as well.
It’s an XC AWD, think tire size is right.

They look quite skinny for 215/65-16s which iirc is the correct size.

Looks really nice otherwise. Nice climate for the cars I guess. Some work on the black plastic and it'll look like new.

After you've found the whole compression issue ofc