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Kallekula's 2001 Wagon Relapse

Post by kallekula » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:28 am

Just bought a new wagon! 106K and no compression on any cylinder :lol:
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Re: Kallekula’s 2001 Wagon Relapse

Post by abscate » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:07 am

That’s all right. It’s more important that they are close than exactly at spec , I’ve read

Probably top end from a timing belt failure?


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Re: Kallekula’s 2001 Wagon Relapse

Post by kallekula » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:29 am

abscate wrote:
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That’s all right. It’s more important that they are close than exactly at spec , I’ve read

Probably top end from a timing belt failure?
Yeah I guess. Timing belt has wear on outside, really not sure what’s going on. Belt maybe jumped a few teeth? I’m not gonna speculate very much, just pull the head off and see what’s going on.



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Re: Kallekula’s 2001 Wagon Relapse

Post by Rattnalle » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:39 am

Those tyres look way too small as well.



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Re: Kallekula’s 2001 Wagon Relapse

Post by kallekula » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:53 am

Rattnalle wrote:
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Those tyres look way too small as well.
It’s an XC AWD, think tire size is right.



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Re: Kallekula’s 2001 Wagon Relapse

Post by BlackBart » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:30 am

ZERO compression......that's interesting. I'd like to hear more about what's happened here. An old non-interference engine with a broken timing gear or similar will do that because the valve train isn't moving. But there might be one valve shut somewhere and you'd get a number.


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Re: Kallekula's 2001 Wagon Relapse

Post by SuperHerman » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:12 am

Sounds like you did a compression test. Did you also check the timing?

It is possible, but doubtful, it is out of time. Still worth the work to double check your marks. I suppose someone may have had a bad pulley or tensioner - just replaced that and screwed it up. Checking the timing would eliminate this scenario.

Most likely, as speculated, the timing moved/belt broke and bent some valves. Someone may have put a used belt on to see if they got lucky or readjusted the belt/pulleys, learned they did not and sold it to your careful hands at a next to nothing price. What did you pay?



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Re: Kallekula's 2001 Wagon Relapse

Post by kallekula » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:25 am

SuperHerman wrote:
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Sounds like you did a compression test. Did you also check the timing?

It is possible, but doubtful, it is out of time. Still worth the work to double check your marks. I suppose someone may have had a bad pulley or tensioner - just replaced that and screwed it up. Checking the timing would eliminate this scenario.

Most likely, as speculated, the timing moved/belt broke and bent some valves. Someone may have put a used belt on to see if they got lucky or readjusted the belt/pulleys, learned they did not and sold it to your careful hands at a next to nothing price. What did you pay?
Yeah I was thinking checking the timing before I tear it apart. Guy who sold it seemed honest, worked as a diesel mechanic and did the head 10k miles ago. Paid $500



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Re: Kallekula's 2001 Wagon Relapse

Post by kallekula » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:00 pm

Daylight pics:
Oh, and yes it’s raining in California too :D
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Re: Kallekula’s 2001 Wagon Relapse

Post by Rattnalle » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:06 pm

kallekula wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:53 am
Rattnalle wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:39 am
Those tyres look way too small as well.
It’s an XC AWD, think tire size is right.
They look quite skinny for 215/65-16s which iirc is the correct size.

Looks really nice otherwise. Nice climate for the cars I guess. Some work on the black plastic and it'll look like new.

After you've found the whole compression issue ofc ;-)



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