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Broken Gas Door Hinge Fix

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Hello there,

One of the gas station attendants banged on the gas door hatch and broke one of the pins that holds the hinge on the car body.
It's not the hinge itself that broke, just the pin that holds it to the body of the car near the gas cap.
Is that pin a rivet or a machine screw or something else?

Is there some way to fix this, and if so, what would be the best fix?

Thanks much for any ideas especially if you've had to do this before too.
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From what I've seen it's something like a plastic peg.
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It is an integral plastic peg. The only way I have found to remove it when replacing is to break the whole thing off from what I recall. Others may disagree. Volvo uses a lot of push pins that flare out the plastic legs on the rear of the panel like a drywall anchor. Some you can depress the pin and it releases the peg and you can wiggle them out with a small flat screwdriver. I am fairly certain that is not possible with the fuel flap hinge. Options are to buy a replacement, or consider drilling it large enough to use a rivet, which has the chances of damaging the paint.

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If you look at IPD's web page you can see the pins. I now recall that the only way they come off is to push the pin right through which usually loses it down behind the fender liner.

https://www.ipdusa.com/products/6174/Fu ... gJJiPD_BwE

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scot850 wrote: 19 Feb 2023, 09:28 It is an integral plastic peg. The only way I have found to remove it when replacing is to break the whole thing off from what I recall. Others may disagree. Volvo uses a lot of push pins that flare out the plastic legs on the rear of the panel like a drywall anchor. Some you can depress the pin and it releases the peg and you can wiggle them out with a small flat screwdriver. I am fairly certain that is not possible with the fuel flap hinge. Options are to buy a replacement, or consider drilling it large enough to use a rivet, which has the chances of damaging the paint.

Neil.

Oh ok. Well here's the state that it is in now. The pin broke off from the car body and the part in the car body must have fallen inside the body cavity because the hole is wide open. So the hole in the body is open.
I think the problem is that part of the pin is still inside the hinge. That's the part i would have to get out i guess to fix it.

Sound like anything you know about?

Thanks Neil.
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Post by scot850 »

To save the door you might want to remove it completely so as not to lose it. Part is not too horrendous, but shipping makes it more so.

You will need a long punch or a small round nail to push the pin through.

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Post by 454cid »

I've seen people on Youtube pull the pins, but my concern would be if the part on the hinge that flares out is now broken off. It's possible a nylon screw and nut would work to fix it, but it might not fit well and consequently not locate the hinge all that well. I would not use anything too strong as it would likely hurt the sheetmetal if the door were to hang up on something.

I think the best bet would be to replace the hinge. I would go OEM Volvo. I tried an aftermarket latch and it was a waste of time/money. When I bought the Volvo part it fit and worked perfectly. I don't normally say "OEM Volvo only", but in this case I don't think going aftermarket is a good idea.

Edit: Make sure you order the right hinge for the year... my 96 and 99 use different hinges because the fuel door operation is a bit different.
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Correct, 850 and V/S70 have different hinges, latches and fuel flap actuators.

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Post by MoVolvos »

MrAl wrote: 19 Feb 2023, 08:22 Hello there,

One of the gas station attendants banged on the gas door hatch and broke one of the pins that holds the hinge on the car body.
It's not the hinge itself that broke, just the pin that holds it to the body of the car near the gas cap.
Is that pin a rivet or a machine screw or something else?

Is there some way to fix this, and if so, what would be the best fix?

Thanks much for any ideas especially if you've had to do this before too.
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May be similar enough. As mentioned it would no longer be a break away, perhaps as Volvo intended design.

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Post by MrAl »

MoVolvos wrote: 19 Feb 2023, 12:31
MrAl wrote: 19 Feb 2023, 08:22 Hello there,

One of the gas station attendants banged on the gas door hatch and broke one of the pins that holds the hinge on the car body.
It's not the hinge itself that broke, just the pin that holds it to the body of the car near the gas cap.
Is that pin a rivet or a machine screw or something else?

Is there some way to fix this, and if so, what would be the best fix?

Thanks much for any ideas especially if you've had to do this before too.
.

May be similar enough. As mentioned it would no longer be a break away, perhaps as Volvo intended design.

viewtopic.php?start=20&t=100706&sid=f69 ... 582b9142dc

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00 S70 Fuel Door Repair.png

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Hi,

Thanks that's exactly what i would like to do. I do have a question though. I see those nice two phillips head screws but what are they anchoring into? The holes behind the holes in the plastic where the screws go through on the hinge are about twice as big as the holes in the plastic hinge. So the holes in the sheet metal body are bigger than the holes in the hinge. That means i cant put a screw that fits into the existing holes in the hinge and expect them to anchor into the sheet metal.

So how are you getting the screws to anchor into the sheet metal directly behind the plastic hinge mounting part?

Also, what is the red tubing for? I see you used a tie wrap too to hole the spring thing in the right place. That's a problem with mine too.

Thanks.
Last edited by MrAl on 19 Feb 2023, 17:01, edited 1 time in total.
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