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U.S. octane requirement question

Post by CIK7 »

Outside the US, a different octane rating is used. For my post I'm using the US numbers.

In the manual (pic below), it shows the NA is higher compression (10.5:1) and turbo is lower compression (8.5-9.0:1). I already knew that. My understanding is that a lower compression engine can use regular 87. The higher needs 91. But either Volvo wants us to use 91 or someone has trained us to think we need to use 91 on the lower compression engines. What is it that I am missing?
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Post by abscate »

Compression ratio is the static ratio of chamber with piston down and piston up. When a turbo boosts, it pushes extra air into the cylinder and the effective pressure in the cylinder is higher? How much? I’m not sure.

I run either 91 or 94 in my turbo cars and 91 in my NA cars
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Post by volvolugnut »

When my preferred local station stopped having premium, no ethanol fuel a couple years ago, I started using the low octane fuel. No noticeable problems.
I believe the ignition controls will adjust if knock occurs with low octane fuel.
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Post by MoVolvos »

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Have been using Premium ever since it came out. Still remember using Leaded fuel especially in V8’s without CAT. The smell of muscle car exhaust 👍.

Wife noticed when I tried to save money by trying 87 and she doesn’t know anything about cars. Never had a CAT, fuel, ignition or code from potential fuel related issues.

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Has anyone checked their gas mileage when running regular gas? I tried it with a couple of cars that were advised to used premium gas by manufacturer's. In both cases the mileage reduced to the point where the saving made it pointless.

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scot850 wrote: Today, 12:10 Has anyone checked their gas mileage when running regular gas? I tried it with a couple of cars that were advised to used premium gas by manufacturer's. In both cases the mileage reduced to the point where the saving made it pointless.

Neil.
Maybe I'll try on the gray 850 if I get the white 850 as planned.
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03 Accord 2dr V6 silver, 196K/214K, 6sp, t-boned, sold
98 S GT white, 175K, 5sp, sold
96 964 silver, 146K, diff&trans/engine self-destr, crushed 😭
98 XC black, 151K, flooded&bent rod, crushed
01 V Base white, 168k, traded for XC
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Post by 454cid »

MoVolvos wrote: Today, 09:53 .
Have been using Premium ever since it came out. Still remember using Leaded fuel especially in V8’s without CAT. The smell of muscle car exhaust 👍.
I had to re-read that, as at first, I interpreted CAT as Caterpillar. :o


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