p80 nasty bad turds thread , renamed
- erikv11
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Sawzall/grinder are my favorite second choice wrenches!
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 201k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 223k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 201k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 223k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
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“ Honey , bring me a towel and warm up the car please.....hope you aren’t busy!”volvolugnut wrote: 14 Oct 2020, 13:40 Carvrepair tool list:
cheater pipes (various lengths)
BFH (various weights)
vise grips
pipe wrenches
abrasive grinders (various sizes)
gas wrenches (various temperature ranges)
magnetic parts pickup tool
finger parts grabber tool
adhesive tape (various strengths)
bandaids
emergency medical phone number/address
volvolugnut
Empty Nester
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- kallekula
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A real sucky moment was when i had to pull a whole engine just to be able to get room for fixing a turbo pressure hose inlet whose threads where gone. I had just bought it and my plan was a quick flip. That was not fun.
BMW 540i 2002
S70 Base 2000
- Cookeh
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I need some help with my American-English to British-English homework:
Google claims a cheater pipe is a length of hollow pipe used to extend leverage on a wrench. I assume this is in lieu of a breaker bar? If so, where does the term "cheater" come from?
What is a vise grip? Google didn't bring up any one single tool, the most common results were locking pliers (or Mole grips here in the UK), but it also brought up lots of results for various locking clamps, adjustable clamps, and adjustable wrenches.
Is a pipe wrench a Stillson? Or does a pipe wrench also cover flat jawed variants, making pipe wrench an umbrella term for all adjustable wrenches?
Lastly, gas wrench...huh?
Assuming the translations are correct then your list looks very similar to mine. If you have tape though, then the bandaids (plasters) are superfluous! What I call a Stillson is invaluable if you have the access to use it. I'd also add an impact driver to that list, though I only have the small manual versions.
Google claims a cheater pipe is a length of hollow pipe used to extend leverage on a wrench. I assume this is in lieu of a breaker bar? If so, where does the term "cheater" come from?
What is a vise grip? Google didn't bring up any one single tool, the most common results were locking pliers (or Mole grips here in the UK), but it also brought up lots of results for various locking clamps, adjustable clamps, and adjustable wrenches.
Is a pipe wrench a Stillson? Or does a pipe wrench also cover flat jawed variants, making pipe wrench an umbrella term for all adjustable wrenches?
Lastly, gas wrench...huh?
Assuming the translations are correct then your list looks very similar to mine. If you have tape though, then the bandaids (plasters) are superfluous! What I call a Stillson is invaluable if you have the access to use it. I'd also add an impact driver to that list, though I only have the small manual versions.
- manovlov
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Does "clutch experiences" to the long court admitted ?abscate wrote: 13 Oct 2020, 18:25 Renamed thread to encourage people to post their bad carvrepair problems requiring “ innovative” approaches
Grinding, Dremel, oxyacetylene are all good indicators of thread worthiness
1995/02 850 GLT 2.5 170 Petrol M56
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manovlov wrote: 15 Oct 2020, 03:00Does "clutch experiences" to the long court admitted ?abscate wrote: 13 Oct 2020, 18:25 Renamed thread to encourage people to post their bad carvrepair problems requiring “ innovative” approaches
Grinding, Dremel, oxyacetylene are all good indicators of thread worthiness
Oui, oui.
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Cookeh wrote: 15 Oct 2020, 02:23 I need some help with my American-English to British-English homework:
Google claims a cheater pipe is a length of hollow pipe used to extend leverage on a wrench. I assume this is in lieu of a breaker bar? If so, where does the term "cheater" come from?
What is a vise grip? Google didn't bring up any one single tool, the most common results were locking pliers (or Mole grips here in the UK), but it also brought up lots of results for various locking clamps, adjustable clamps, and adjustable wrenches.
Is a pipe wrench a Stillson? Or does a pipe wrench also cover flat jawed variants, making pipe wrench an umbrella term for all adjustable wrenches?
Lastly, gas wrench...huh?
Assuming the translations are correct then your list looks very similar to mine. If you have tape though, then the bandaids (plasters) are superfluous! What I call a Stillson is invaluable if you have the access to use it. I'd also add an impact driver to that list, though I only have the small manual versions.
Your translations are Perfect
I think cheater comes from the fact that you don’t buy a longer breaker car.
Vice a Grip or ( vise grip
I think Pipe wrench and Stillson are interchangeable. Stillson was used in my house but my Dad was from Tipton!
Gas wrench? Hmmmmm.
Empty Nester
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- BlackBart
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^^^ Sometimes referred to as The Smoke Wrench!
This made me chuckle!
I think "cheater" came about because you are "cheating" the amount of leeeverage (that's British) your bar was supposed to come with. Some friends and I recently blew apart my NAPA breaker bar trying to get the collar nut back on a 356 crankshaft to the required 300 ft lbs (300???). Two guys holding the engine on a stand, me hanging off a 3 or 4 foot pipe on the breaker bar, and bouncing! BAM!! We guessed we got it to 250 -ish, and that was good enough.
This made me chuckle!
I think "cheater" came about because you are "cheating" the amount of leeeverage (that's British) your bar was supposed to come with. Some friends and I recently blew apart my NAPA breaker bar trying to get the collar nut back on a 356 crankshaft to the required 300 ft lbs (300???). Two guys holding the engine on a stand, me hanging off a 3 or 4 foot pipe on the breaker bar, and bouncing! BAM!! We guessed we got it to 250 -ish, and that was good enough.
ex-1984 245T wagon
1994 850T5 wagon
2004 XC70 wagon BlackBetty
1994 850T5 wagon
2004 XC70 wagon BlackBetty
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I’m done talking






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- volvolugnut
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YES!
Collectively the group has translated correctly all of the local names for special persuaders of stubborn fasteners.
Trivia on Vise Grip locking pliers: They were originally made in Dewitt, Nebraska by the inventor William Peterson. Later the company was purchased by Irwin tool, part of Stanley Black and Decker. The Nebraska plant closed in 2008. I think the best VIse Grip pliers were made in Nebraska and buy the old ones when I find them.
volvolugnut
Collectively the group has translated correctly all of the local names for special persuaders of stubborn fasteners.
Trivia on Vise Grip locking pliers: They were originally made in Dewitt, Nebraska by the inventor William Peterson. Later the company was purchased by Irwin tool, part of Stanley Black and Decker. The Nebraska plant closed in 2008. I think the best VIse Grip pliers were made in Nebraska and buy the old ones when I find them.
volvolugnut
The Fleet:
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
John Deere 214 lawn tractor about 1977 model
And others.
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
John Deere 214 lawn tractor about 1977 model
And others.
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