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wolvengang42
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Re: Loose vinyl on door panels

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Hello MadeInJapan, thank your for funneling the posts about delaminating vinyl on our beloved automobiles: that is why we initially replied to all threads. Correction: since 'overseas' is not within the EU :-) the Panelpads price will be without VAT (nice!), but shipping will set you back some extra EURO 25,- (sorry)..... Here too same experience by the way: the door panel issue is caused by intense sun light radiation, the velours panels remain in shape as well as the (stitched leather) R panels.

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On two of my v70s I have replaced the small vinyl inserts with junk yard "R" panels. (the kind with the stitching) My current v70xc is one of them and the panels are holding up great after a few years. all you have to do is take the entire panel off, rip the inserts out, and glue in the new/used inserts. I specifically used clamps and paper towels to refrain from permanently making an indentation with only clamps. It takes a bit of time and finesse however the end result is well worth it! Plus now I get a two-toned interior.
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Very interesting
It's a shame they did not come up with this 10 years ago when there were thousands of these running around with de-laminated panels!
We are doing mine now the hard way on my 2000 S70 time capsule with 30K miles
I found tan V70R leather door panel inserts. (By their design, these never come apart). I had them refinished to match and now we're "mating" them to my perfect existing outer panels.
Not for the faint harted! Two weeks, two doors completed! *(&#$(*$^&*#^$&*# slow and tedious.

In a week or so, these 4 panels will be PERFECT!
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wolvengang42 wrote:Hello MadeInJapan, thank your for funneling the posts about delaminating vinyl on our beloved automobiles: that is why we initially replied to all threads. Correction: since 'overseas' is not within the EU :-) the Panelpads price will be without VAT (nice!), but shipping will set you back some extra EURO 25,- (sorry)..... Here too same experience by the way: the door panel issue is caused by intense sun light radiation, the velours panels remain in shape as well as the (stitched leather) R panels.
You may want to mention these here:
http://forums.swedespeed.com/forumdispl ... 1998-2000)
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Said what the hell and ordered some. Why not!
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Post pictures before and after
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JRL wrote:Post pictures before and after
Will do. Overall, my interior is looking pretty good considering the age, but the door panels are looking real sad. Also the the driver's seat leather is getting rough.
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kmesse wrote:I have the puckering on every door on my 99 S70. It goes from the tangent all the way to the controls, not just a bubble. Whole thing is peeled up.

Instead of replacing the vinyl or door, I thought I could take a piece of thin plywood, cut it to tightly fit inside of the door plate, idea being it would be an extra plate that would cover the whole insde of the puckering thing. Fasten 2 bolts through it to its backside that will attach through the panel to the inside of the door. Mount new vinyl material over that wood to make it pretty, staple it to the backside. Then use a blowdryer to soften the door vinyl since it's pretty tight, and fasten the new plate to the whole door panel to clamp the whole thing down.

Just a theory since all I've heard is trying to fix the vinyl. If I actually get to it, I'll let you know how it works, and maybe make a fortune selling the new door plates.

Love the site, been living here since I bought my S70 a couple weeks ago and I've got lots to fix including the squeaky dash fix.
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I had a similar idea but my thought was to use a piece of Kydex that was very thin.

For those of you who don't know, Kydex is a heat shapeable plastic sheet that comes in various thicknesses and it's commonly used for concealed carry pistol holsters and knife sheaths. I've worked with it before and it's pretty tough stuff.

Some day if I have access to a wood shop again, I'd like to make a wooden router template for all four doors of these Volvos and try making a set of Kydex inserts. The material is available in various sizes and while it's not cheap, it would last forever and it's very easy to work and would look nice.

The approach I would use would be to create a wooden template that would mimic the smallest flat surface profile in the door alcove from the door handle all the way back to the wide end, plate the Kydex over the template and trim it with a laminate trimmer. Then I would carefully slice away all the vynil on the door that was pulled loose and place the Kydex in there so it would pull all the remaining loose vynil tight. I'd probably attach the Kydex with spray glue and some small screws at each end that could be hidden behind a cap.

I'm sure this would work, but I just don't have the time and resources to do it now. The idea of plywood is good, but it Kydex would probably be better as it is much thinner and weather / temperature resistant than wood.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kydex

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SonicAdventure wrote: ... The idea of plywood is good, but it Kydex would probably be better as it is much thinner and weather / temperature resistant than wood. ...
Sonic did you maybe miss this post? :
wolvengang42 wrote:Hello V70 Classic owners! We have finally launched our Panelpads kit for repairing loosening vinyl coming off from the door panels of the Volvo V70 - S70 - V70 XC Classic (1996 - 2000). Here you'll find all the information you need, Panelpads now has its own subdomain:

http://www.wolvengang.com/panelpads.

And our production partner ships worldwide ;-).
Among other things the link shows how for any repair of the panels, heating the vinyl would be far superior to cutting it. But otherwise, Panelpads is basically selling a tested and refined variation of the kydex idea for a very good price.
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erikv11 wrote:
SonicAdventure wrote: ... The idea of plywood is good, but it Kydex would probably be better as it is much thinner and weather / temperature resistant than wood. ...
Sonic did you maybe miss this post? :
wolvengang42 wrote:Hello V70 Classic owners! We have finally launched our Panelpads kit for repairing loosening vinyl coming off from the door panels of the Volvo V70 - S70 - V70 XC Classic (1996 - 2000). Here you'll find all the information you need, Panelpads now has its own subdomain:

http://www.wolvengang.com/panelpads.

And our production partner ships worldwide ;-).
Among other things the link shows how for any repair of the panels, heating the vinyl would be far superior to cutting it. But otherwise, Panelpads is basically selling a tested and refined variation of the kydex idea for a very good price.
No I saw it, and while I'm not trying to steal their thunder, the way I imagine it is better. My solution would be more complicated and more expensive, but it would completely flatten everything down to the orginal profile of the hard foam backing. Also the way I would do it, the Kydex would be machined to go completely around the inner door latch opening and then mitered so that the OEM Volvo plastic door handle trim ring would fit back on top of the Kydex.

I worked in a custom cabinet shop for about 9 years, and I am familiar with templating and production of parts from various plywoods and laminates. I am confident that my solution would give a more solid and OEM look to the panels than any of the other ideas being floated and tested including removing the vynil and painting the substrate, reupholstering or whatever. But like I said, I would need access to a bandsaw, a table router, a jointer, thickness sander and several other shop tools, plus about $200 just for the Kydex raw materials to complete my project, and in the end it's just not worth the money or time. But hey, if there is anyone in the Philadelphia area with access to a shop I would be willing to spend the money for the Kydex just to do a mock up on one piece and showcase what I am talking about lol!

Nevertheless, Of all the current ideas and solutions the PanelPads look to be the best solution for the best value.

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