98 XC: VERY bad starting sound after replacing injector seals

[CIK7]

With all the plugs out, you should be able to turn with a socket on the crank nut from right side fender well. Block up the right front and remove the wheel. Remove a couple plastic nuts and fold the front of plastic inner fender liner forward. Clamp the liner out of the way by folding and clamping to itself with vise grips or C clamp. With a socket (about 30mm or 1 3/16) on the crank nut, turn CLOCKWISE only. It should turn fairly easily. If you meet any resistance STOP.

volvolugnut

I don't have proper tool for attempting to turn the engine. would have to borrow from friend. not doing that until after I have a car. is several miles outside of town.

[CIK7]

You can do this from up top if you move the ECM box and get the $9 30 mm box end from Lowe Quality

SKU is 337678

It’s $8 if you served fighting the dinosaurs , Communists, and the (redacted ).

It also comes with a free timing belt installer on the other end

Worst case your starter is stuck. I don’t think you did engine damage.

yeah the starter is where the single clicks come from.

[CIK7]

Thinking about this some more, I have another suggestion for checks. IF the engine partially hydro locked, is it possible that the timing belt could have jumped and bent the valves?

The gas would leak down around the piston rings when left so you may not have seen fuel in the cylinders when you checked. Try pulling the dip stick and see if there is a smell of gasoline from the oil in the sump. Then the top thought may be the issue. Bent valves.

Neil.

I will check tonight.

[volvolugnut]

You might try to loosen the starter and wiggle it to unjam it. You also may be able to remove starter, check the flywheel and starter teeth for damage and see if the starter will turn when loose from engine.

volvolugnut

[CIK7]

You might try to loosen the starter and wiggle it to unjam it. You also may be able to remove starter, check the flywheel and starter teeth for damage and see if the starter will turn when loose from engine.

volvolugnut

unable to remove it. the big bottom bolt is unaccessible.

[CIK7]

Thinking about this some more, I have another suggestion for checks. IF the engine partially hydro locked, is it possible that the timing belt could have jumped and bent the valves?

The gas would leak down around the piston rings when left so you may not have seen fuel in the cylinders when you checked. Try pulling the dip stick and see if there is a smell of gasoline from the oil in the sump. Then the top thought may be the issue. Bent valves.

Neil.

it does not seem that there is a gas smell and the oil level has not risen. also I found that the entire intake manifold and intake Port of cylinder number 2 from passenger side was completely full of gas.

[erikv11]

Thinking about this some more, I have another suggestion for checks. IF the engine partially hydro locked, is it possible that the timing belt could have jumped and bent the valves?

The gas would leak down around the piston rings when left so you may not have seen fuel in the cylinders when you checked. Try pulling the dip stick and see if there is a smell of gasoline from the oil in the sump. Then the top thought may be the issue. Bent valves.

Neil.

it does not seem that there is a gas smell and the oil level has not risen. also I found that the entire intake manifold and intake Port of cylinder number 2 from passenger side was completely full of gas.

Holy crap. Bad news. That's gonna be a hydrolock and blown engine, possibly.

[CIK7]

Thinking about this some more, I have another suggestion for checks. IF the engine partially hydro locked, is it possible that the timing belt could have jumped and bent the valves?

The gas would leak down around the piston rings when left so you may not have seen fuel in the cylinders when you checked. Try pulling the dip stick and see if there is a smell of gasoline from the oil in the sump. Then the top thought may be the issue. Bent valves.

Neil.

it does not seem that there is a gas smell and the oil level has not risen. also I found that the entire intake manifold and intake Port of cylinder number 2 from passenger side was completely full of gas.

Holy crap. Bad news. That's gonna be a hydrolock and blown engine, possibly.

yeah I think the starter seized up too.

[scot850]

Have you tried to remove all the spark plugs and manually turn the engine over? If you thing the started has seized, remove that before trying this and see if the engine has frozen. No point condemning the engine to quickly. Removing the starter will also not be wasted as you will need to remove it if the engine is wasted anyway. Can you borrow a boroscope? If you can you can put it down the plug holes and look for damage on the piston crowns and broken rings. Also check the crown wheel teeth for damage where the starter motor was when it seized (assuming it did).

I am ever the optimist and hope that your engine is not done!

Neil.

[erikv11]

Have you tried to remove all the spark plugs and manually turn the engine over? If you thing the started has seized, remove that before trying this and see if the engine has frozen. No point condemning the engine to quickly. Removing the starter will also not be wasted as you will need to remove it if the engine is wasted anyway. Can you borrow a boroscope? If you can you can put it down the plug holes and look for damage on the piston crowns and broken rings. Also check the crown wheel teeth for damage where the starter motor was when it seized (assuming it did).

I am ever the optimist and hope that your engine is not done!

Neil.

OP knows this, but doesn't have the tools to do it.

Turning the engine by hand has been the next step for several days now, I wouldn't bother with anything else until that's checked.